placement of BPV

[meicalnissyen]

Does it matter where? I was yhinkin about a water/air, and they do not have a Bpv flange, so, I would need to get a flange mount clamped inlne some where.

ckose to the turbo? after the IC? wherever convient?

Thanks!

 

[MSMS3]

Post is unclear. Water/air what? An air to water intercooler (liquid charge cooler), perhaps?

I would think that physical location of the BPV is not relevant provided that it is correctly flanged and hoses correctly.

BTW: I would think that a water based intercooler would not be a good choice for our cars except in the very limited circumstances of icing down the water well below ambient for a short burst run at a drag strip. Otherwise, it just serves as a heat sink and will hold the heat it absorbs from the intake charge and from the engine bay and will take a lot longer to return to ambient than an air-to-air IC.

 

[meicalnissyen]

Post is unclear. Water/air what? An air to water intercooler (liquid charge cooler), perhaps?

I would think that physical location of the BPV is not relevant provided that it is correctly flanged and hoses correctly.

BTW: I would think that a water based intercooler would not be a good choice for our cars except in the very limited circumstances of icing down the water well below ambient for a short burst run at a drag strip. Otherwise, it just serves as a heat sink and will hold the heat it absorbs from the intake charge and from the engine bay and will take a lot longer to return to ambient than an air-to-air IC.

they come with radiators

the quetion relates to, essentially, is the stock mount of post IC for a reason other than convience of the recirc tube

 

[mo4130]

Are you asking if you could just move the BPV anywhere?

 

[meicalnissyen]

Are you asking if you could just move the BPV anywhere?

I am asking, if it is, from a performance viewpoint, prefential to have the BPV as close to turbo outlet as possible, or, if it needs to post IC

 

[MSMS3]

What, exactly are you trying to do? Maybe English is a second language? Sorry, but I'm confused.

If I understood what you were trying to accomplish, maybe I could help more. Why do you want it in a different location and what is your objective or goal? Sorry for all the questions.

 

[Darth Vader]

BPV post IC is fine and, easier.

Air to liquid is ALWAYS better than air to air. You aren't using radiator water so, it doesn't get hot like the engine-heated rad water; all it's gotta do is suck heat out of the charge air. Thermal properties of water are such it can absorb alot more heat than straight atmo and the water circulates via pump to a rad to carry the heat away from the IC core. Plus, you can run a smaller IC core atop the engine, giving better engine access. Problem is the plumbing and wiring headaches and addition of a few new failure modes for the system.

 

[meicalnissyen]

BPV post IC is fine and, easier.

Air to liquid is ALWAYS better than air to air. You aren't using radiator water so, it doesn't get hot like the engine-heated rad water; all it's gotta do is suck heat out of the charge air. Thermal properties of water are such it can absorb alot more heat than straight atmo and the water circulates via pump to a rad to carry the heat away from the IC core. Plus, you can run a smaller IC core atop the engine, giving better engine access. Problem is the plumbing and wiring headaches and addition of a few new failure modes for the system.

Thanks Darth, true the location, less spool interuption Pre ?

 

[79535]

Location of the BPV doesn't matter, as long as it is between the turbo and your throttle plate.

I've been looking in to an air to liquid I/C myself. What company are you looking at?

 

[meicalnissyen]

Location of the BPV doesn't matter, as long as it is between the turbo and your throttle plate.

I've been looking in to an air to liquid I/C myself. What company are you looking at?

I was looking at silly implants/ frozen fail but the tech support responds with form letters, so I would say you will get what you order, in a timely manner..... and you are on your own after that

caveat emptor

 

[mo4130]

I imagine that would be awesome for down in Florida. Your intake temps would be a lot lower, I would think at least.

 

[79535]

I was looking at the TurbineTech. It's even made up here in Canada. I was impressed haha.

The only thing that concerns me about an L/A intercooler, is the pump failing... I'm not sure how reliable they are.

 

[mo4130]

Yea but even if the pump fails, it will still provide some cooling like an air to air right?

 

[79535]

Nope. If the pump fails, the water stops moving through the intercooler cooling loop (has a rad where a FMIC would normally go to cool the liquid).

If you stop cooling the liquid that is being pumped through the liquid/air intercooler, it will quickly heat soak and you will be feeding very hot air in to your engine.

 

[Boosted333]

If I remember correctly, from my turbo + Mustang days, putting the BOV closer to the throttle body was better in case of a backfire. But putting the BOV closer to the turbo got us a better response/pressure to the BOV. Obviously the MS3 and a 900+ hp Mustang are totally different animals, but I wanted to share. I went through a lot of different combo's with my stang and it took me a while to realize that BOV did matter.