right now i have a mazdaspeed axelback($200w/ship), racingbeat springs($200w/ship), tokico hp shocks($345w/ship), protege 5 strut bar($85w/ship), twm short shifter($125w/ship), kartboy bushings($30w/ship), k and n drop in filter($30w/ship)(does anyone want to buy the filter because im about to install my intake soon, and it's been on the car for about 12k miles) and a k and n typhoon intake($220w/ship). im looking to buy more performance mods, but i dont know what to buy next. i have $900 to spend. im thinking to get the mazdaspeed sway bars($275) and wagner header($285). would u guys think typhoon, wagner header, and mazdaspeed axelback improve the overall performance of the engine. also, if anyone has another opinion on what i should do, im all ears. thanks for reading and the info.
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wagner shorty will not do anything, I would go with the wagner dp if you have to keep that primary catalyst in place...but I agree with the cat-back...by a cat-back, and save the rest and do some research...come up with overall what kind of power you want to make...and then start asking the questions...its hard to give you good advice if no one knows what kind of power you want at the end, and how much money you are willing to spend during the life of the car...
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SIBalla23 said:
i like the sound of the axelback though, but i've thought about switching for some time now. i was thinking racingbeat, but im not sure because i dont think there will be a difference between the axelback and a catback. i drove one of my friends p5 with a catback and intake on it, and my car seemed faster(im not sure the p5 weighs more or not because that might be the reason).
well, im going to install the typhoon and see what that does. i will post back on here, when i can get a pretty good idea of what im looking for because my suspension is basically done. im only debating on wheels now, but im really picky and it's hard to pick nice wheels out for a green car.
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the sedan is like 75lbs lighter....not a huge difference, you would really have to know your car to have that make a noticable difference...but some claim they can...
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Installshield 2 said:
I thought someone got 7whp from dynoing a Wagner header.
Sorry for my ignorance I am a newbie. So you think it's actually pointless, power-wise?
What kind of power could you expect from the downpipe?
Then would you get the midpipe next?
Is it going to sound rice with both the cats removed if you have a quiet catback like the Racing Beat?
If install is not that hard and it's not incredibly loud I'd do it... Just put the cats back in before inspection right?
I would tend to agree that the wagner header isn't worth it unless you're paranoid about taking off the first cat. OBX or Ractive headers should do as good if not better.
I also think getting rid of the axelback and putting the catback on will be more beneficial. Why? Just take a look at the piping under your car. It'll also sound much better compared to the axelback, especially if you're losing a cat or two.
I also think getting rid of the axelback and putting the catback on will be more beneficial. Why? Just take a look at the piping under your car. It'll also sound much better compared to the axelback, especially if you're losing a cat or two.
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So if you have ramps-- installing/reinstalling old pipes really only takes maybe an hour? So why not remove the cats?
What are the serious drawbacks? Bad noise?
What are the serious drawbacks? Bad noise?
Removing the cats yeah bad noise. You'll also wanna remove the stock header anyways just because of the weight. That thing's like 20 pounds! An OBX header is around 10.
And installing/reinstalling old pipes would take an hour possibly two. It took me three to install my OBX header but I took my time because I wanted it done right
Oh and you'll also need something to trick the ECU into thinking everything's fine w/the 2nd 02 sensor (it will read the exhaust gas differently w/o the first cat in place). There are two methods to fixing this - the MIL eliminator, which requires soldering wires in your o2 sensor; and the non-fouler, which requires drilling one of the nonfoulers. Personally I like the non-fouler as it leaves the wires fine in case I have to go back to stock in a jiffy.
And installing/reinstalling old pipes would take an hour possibly two. It took me three to install my OBX header but I took my time because I wanted it done right
Oh and you'll also need something to trick the ECU into thinking everything's fine w/the 2nd 02 sensor (it will read the exhaust gas differently w/o the first cat in place). There are two methods to fixing this - the MIL eliminator, which requires soldering wires in your o2 sensor; and the non-fouler, which requires drilling one of the nonfoulers. Personally I like the non-fouler as it leaves the wires fine in case I have to go back to stock in a jiffy.
Lord_Zath said:
does your car still have any cats because i've heard luke's car and it's extremely loud, but he has no cats at all. he has the obx and the corksport exhaust and his car sounds like a honda. if it's not as loud as his car, then i might consider it because it's probably what im looking for, and if i dont like i or if i get too many complaints i'll just sell it and put the stock one back on.
Ill suggest this... get a catback or a least new piping to meet up with the axel back and put in a resonators if you worried about sound. A midpipe with a hiflow cat which can be had from MAM will tone things down while helping in performance. Then a OBX header... dollar for dollar best header out there. AWR makes a more expensive one but its does yield the most gains.
Also tunning always helps. Might want to think about a N/A MPI tuner i think its around 500 bucks but dont hold me too it.
As far as suspension i would buy AWR Sway bar as well before i would get Mazdaspeed. Also look into a motor mount (a/t) which is softer and easier to deal with.
Also tunning always helps. Might want to think about a N/A MPI tuner i think its around 500 bucks but dont hold me too it.
As far as suspension i would buy AWR Sway bar as well before i would get Mazdaspeed. Also look into a motor mount (a/t) which is softer and easier to deal with.
I have the stock 2nd catback and stock exhaust right now. It's louder but not so much so that it sounds ricey at all.
My next goal besides intake will probably be for the MAM hi-flow midpipe and racing beat catback exhaust. It may be louder but like others said, if it's that much of a problem, throw in a resonator.
My next goal besides intake will probably be for the MAM hi-flow midpipe and racing beat catback exhaust. It may be louder but like others said, if it's that much of a problem, throw in a resonator.
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who had that sound clip of a Racing Beat cat-back with no cats, and an OBX header?... whoever it was it sounded great, almost V8 like...deep and throaty, but not buzzy in the slightest...I have the RB cat-back on the way right now...but will probably leave the 2nd catalyst in place until I get the other engine in...
im thinking about the racingbeat cat back, but where is the cheapest place to get it at? i think i'll gain like 1 to 2whp over the axelback that i have now. Also, i probably wont get much for the axelback because im thinking like $100. the racingbeat and obx sound clip is in the NA sound thread. well, i'll keep u guys posted on what i decide to do. i was thinking about getting my car dynoed just to see what hp increase the axelback offers, but i haven't found a dyno place around my area. thanks for the replys though.
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