Most dissapointing...the MS6! (Long)

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2003 Mazda Protege5 - Pure White
Mazda got really unlucky at the Washington DC Auto show. Their display was right across the isle from Honda.

First, I was excited to see the new MS6, which promised the holy trinity of midsized sports sedans: power, agility, and refinement. I suppose my main points of dissatisfaction fall into the last category. The interior was plain with piano-black trim where you'd typically see silver painted plastic. Nice in thought, but it didn't work, especially in light of the current performance design directive of dark grey, mat or textured surfaces. I saw what appeared to be un-resined carbon fiber accenting the new Z4M convertibles interior. THAT shouted sporty; performance; racing. Unfortunately, when I see shiny, I think 300C.

Anyway, then next big disappointment struck me as soon as I sat down: the seats. They are (practically) no different then stock 6 seats. In a performance car. By a Japanese manufacturer. With the tag line Zoom Zoom.

The final disappointment came when I matched hand to shift knob...okay it was the greasy thread of the shift lever, as the knob was removed for the show. That didn't stop me from rowing through the gears, however. Not bad, I thought to myself, especially for a FWD car cross dressing as AWD.

I suppose the real disappointment of the last two items REALLY hit home when I moseyed across the isle to poke fun at the Accord GS-X Type-R V-TEC grey wedgey thing sitting in the Honda display. I made a joke about such and laughed until the moment I hit the MSRP: $26K and change. That's pretty low for 246HP, 6 speed manual, rims, suspension, etc. Then I cracked the door and slid into the seat. It felt like slipping on a pair of $400 Mephisto dress shoes after wearing half-laced sh!t kickers my hole life. I thought there was a mistake. The seat was perfect for attacking corners or whatever ricers do in supped-up Accords.

And, double bonus, the shifter felt like the RSX's. Not as short or as direct as the MX-5/RX-8, but definitely better than just about ANYTHING else on a FWD car.

So there you have it, my disappointment with the MS6 has been documented. I will, of course, limit my experiences by restating that I have not driven either car. But, if the love/hate relationship of a car starts with the wow performance numbers, it is forged for all eternity in the daily interactions between man and machine. That is where the MS6 falls short of where it should be.

ANyone with otehr opinions of the MS6?

PS: There is hope; the new 6 should be making its debut in 11 months for the 2008 model year!
 
Browns mazda on rt 1 has a demo 6 for you to try out ;)
 
Honda fit and finish is way above par of Mazdas. However, the feel of a Mazda in motion is enough to offset such asthetic differences depending on your tastes.
 
Replica said:
Honda fit and finish is way above par of Mazdas. However, the feel of a Mazda in motion is enough to offset such asthetic differences depending on your tastes.

Hell yeah. zoom-zoom forever! damnit now I want to go for a drive but I have too much homework :( :(
 
I personally don't care for the MS6, since it's big and heavier than what I think a sports car should be. But about the interior and fits and finish thing, that shouldn't be the deciding issue for a sports car. When you drive and I mean really "drive" I don't think I'll will be worrying about whether my dash is finish in plastic or gold. Same goes with the other interior trims.

I do understand the seat issue in MS6, because when I sat in the one they had at last year's New York auto show, it wasn't that great and the seating posture was kinda weird. I can't remember the shifter was like so I can't comment on that. But in the end, I think Mazda wanted MS6 to be a Camry/Accord with Zoom Zoom.
 
size and weight are from all the options and other toys they threw into the car. Owners aren't complaining about it being sluggish except in the few cases 87 was used. I'm not saying the MS6 is god on wheels but just curb weight isn't gonna slow it down.
 
Drive it first, then come back and give us your opinion. As has been said, it ain't the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it will definitely leave you with a smile on your face once you put your foot to the floor.

R
 
anarchistchiken said:
I still wish they'd put a 300-350 hp turbo v6 in it

I don't know if you had seen the engine bay of a mazda 6, but there is Very little space to fit a turbo in that compartment.

It could be possible, yet very futile at best.
 
Z6speed has a twin turbo 6s. If mazda turboed the V6...you would have no options whatsoever compared to the current speed 6. It woud be built in a ford plant and cost a lot more. Remember the 3.0 V6 isn't imported.
 
yeah I bet thats cause they went with the TMIC.
 
what's wrong with the regular leather mazda 6 seats?? I love mine.. why fix it if it ain't broke (shrug)
 
The leather seats in the 6 and F/L/M vehicles are actualy comfortable compared to the CTS ones. CTS ones reminded me of my cloth seats in my 6, but with leather.

Above statement is true and I did drive the V6 CTS on multiple occasions.
 
Pretty shure the honda forums can give you picts and a spec sheet to compare to the speed 6...
 
what is he referring to by "Accord GS-X Type-R V-TEC grey wedgey thing"?

is that actually the car name? i thought he was just throwing acronyms on the end
 
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