Mods Opinion.

[MS3077]

Okay so I've been doing a little research as to what else I want to do with my MS3 and I've pretty much decided on what my next MODS will be.

********** Ultimate Dual Port Blow Off Valve Kit (Street Unit)

********** Stainless Test Pipe (Catless) (Street Unit)

What do you guys think???

My current mods are: Cobb SRI, SU Rear Motor mount, TWM SS (this week)

 

[dparm1984]

Do you have any sort of long-term goal for the car? I'd figure that out, then set up a package that will get you there. Lego building it will cost more and not necessarily give as good of an end result.

 

[MS3077]

Do you have any sort of long-term goal for the car? I'd figure that out, then set up a package that will get you there. Lego building it will cost more and not necessarily give as good of an end result.

Good point!

Well for right now I want to make it a little more powerful without totally breaking the bank or forfeiting my warranty (IE, Turbo Upgrade, etc.) As for straight line speed I think low to mid 13 ’s would be nice.

I would prefer to be able to take off my MODS in 2 hrs or less if I need to go for warranty work. This is why I’m trying to stay away from DP’s and MP’s, kind of sucks because those give monster gains but oh well..

This car is my daily driver but I also like to run the with it and possibly get into road racings, autocross, etc. With the road racings and autocross suspension upgrades will need to come most likely but I’m not too worried about that as of now.

I do plan on getting a turbo timer and boost gauge as well.

So basically I’m not really trying to break any records but I want to be pretty damn fast and reliable if possible!

 

[dparm1984]

Well obviously we'd all like more power.

How much power? At what RPM range? How will you tune the ECU to make the most of the additions?

Frankly the car is "pretty damn fast" and reliable in stock form. Anything you do will more than likely decrease reliability. This is just how it is.

A good place to start is figuring out the deficiencies of the stock motor and working to overcome them. Things like the 5500rpm drop-off in power, the leaky BPV, etc.

 

[07speed3]

ETS TMIC...good power gain and easy to take off and put on for dealer visits

 

[MS3077]

Well obviously we'd all like more power.

How much power? At what RPM range? How will you tune the ECU to make the most of the additions?

Frankly the car is "pretty damn fast" and reliable in stock form. Anything you do will more than likely decrease reliability. This is just how it is.

A good place to start is figuring out the deficiencies of the stock motor and working to overcome them. Things like the 5500rpm drop-off in power, the leaky BPV, etc.

I will worry about a tuning solution when one is out that I feel comfortable with (Probably Cobb)

Okay to answer your questions:

How much power? Enough power to run low to mid 13's in the 1/4. I'm guessing about 265-285whp.

At what RPM range? This will come with the tuning solution but as of now I would like a lot of power thoughout the entire rpm range.

I'm aware of the 6000rpm drop off in power, it doesn't bother me too much to shift at around 5700ish. Granted the shift from 4-5 is quite possibly the gayest shift known to man and it's even gayer that we got to do this for the 1/4 . BPV is a mod I'm planning on getting hence why I asked for an opinion of the one listed when I begun the thread.

 

[MS3077]

ETS TMIC...good power gain and easy to take off and put on for dealer visits

Thanks!

 

[MS3077]

I'm defiantly leaning towards the Cobb acessport when ever it comes available

 

[dparm1984]

From what I see, the quick and dirty way on this car to make more power is:

-intake
-top mount intercooler (TMIC)
-cat back exhaust
-stronger bypass valve (BPV)

Anything beyond that will start getting expensive and cost you dearly in terms of reliability.


My opinion? Go for a Mazdaspeed cold air intake kit. Dealers won't hassle you for it. Same thing for an exhaust: Mazdaspeed catback system. The intake is quick and easy, and the car responds well. The exhaust isn't easy, but is Mazda-warrantied.

The TMIC can easily be removed before a visit, as can the BPV. Avoid a downpipe and/or cat replacement for now if you're worried about dealer visits and reliability.


I'm not really sure you can make "more power across the whole RPM range", but I would assume you want more power in the RPM range the car is geared for, as that's how it becomes the most usable.

Start small. Get the intake and the exhaust and see how you like it (you're already half-way there). The next step would be that intercooler and BPV. Just my $0.02....I hate seeing people slap stuff together only to find out they wasted money and the car isn't responding as well.

 

[MS3077]

From what I see, the quick and dirty way on this car to make more power is:

-intake
-top mount intercooler (TMIC)
-cat back exhaust
-stronger bypass valve (BPV)

Anything beyond that will start getting expensive and cost you dearly in terms of reliability.


My opinion? Go for a Mazdaspeed cold air intake kit. Dealers won't hassle you for it. Same thing for an exhaust: Mazdaspeed catback system. The intake is quick and easy, and the car responds well. The exhaust isn't easy, but is Mazda-warrantied.

The TMIC can easily be removed before a visit, as can the BPV. Avoid a downpipe and/or cat replacement for now if you're worried about dealer visits and reliability.


I'm not really sure you can make "more power across the whole RPM range", but I would assume you want more power in the RPM range the car is geared for, as that's how it becomes the most usable.

Start small. Get the intake and the exhaust and see how you like it (you're already half-way there). The next step would be that intercooler and BPV. Just my $0.02....I hate seeing people slap stuff together only to find out they wasted money and the car isn't responding as well.

Yeah I suppose once I have the test pipe, tmic and BPV I'm pretty much set for the moment.

Not worried about my Cobb SRI ( I can have this switched in like 30min)
And yes I'm beating a dead horse put I'd rather not have to worry about hydro-lock with the CAI as I've heard of too many horror stories in my neck of the woods.

The test pipe I will be getting is a very simple bolt on application that can easily be unbolted and put back to stock in no time.


Anyway, thanks for all your input

 

[dparm1984]

If you're anal, and want to track your progress, get dyno runs in. It's rewarding to see the car actually putting down more power rather than saying, "well I guess it feels faster".

 

[MS3077]

If you're anal, and want to track your progress, get dyno runs in. It's rewarding to see the car actually putting down more power rather than saying, "well I guess it feels faster".

Yes I plan on doing this in the near future.

 

[haberdashery]

im in the same boat as you, as far as mod plans. i plan on working out a deal with the stealership the day i buy it to include the install and price of the mazdaspeed cold air intake and cat-back. that way i dont have to worry about warranty on those, then proceed to a motormount, shifter bushings... and a test pipe. corksports test pipe uses stock hangers ive heard, so you've got 12 bolts to remove and youre swapped out. im sure after doing this a few times it'd be a cakewalk. a downpipe is a different story, im not going there. i'd die for a corksport turboback.

 

[MS3077]

im in the same boat as you, as far as mod plans. i plan on working out a deal with the stealership the day i buy it to include the install and price of the mazdaspeed cold air intake and cat-back. that way i dont have to worry about warranty on those, then proceed to a motormount, shifter bushings... and a test pipe. corksports test pipe uses stock hangers ive heard, so you've got 12 bolts to remove and youre swapped out. im sure after doing this a few times it'd be a cakewalk. a downpipe is a different story, im not going there. i'd die for a corksport turboback.

Yeah definitely go with a stronger rear engine motor mount and shifter bushings!

Sounds like your going for a set up similiar as myself

I'm just keeping it simple until there is a good tuning solution available.

 

[haberdashery]

ehh, i dont even think ill go as far as an accessport. i forgot about springs and sways though, those are a must. the stock ride height on these cars is about as high as a monster truck

 

[MS3077]

ehh, i dont even think ill go as far as an accessport. i forgot about springs and sways though, those are a must. the stock ride height on these cars is about as high as a monster truck

Yeah I'm gonna go with the H&R sport springs and later on sway bars, etc..

 

[dparm1984]

How do the Mazdaspeed ones compare? Again, dealers won't hassle you for it.

 

[MS3077]

How do the Mazdaspeed ones compare? Again, dealers won't hassle you for it.

The Mazdaspeed springs are too expensive and they don't drop the car enough.

I highly doubt I'm going to have problems with my suspension anyway.

 

[dparm1984]

Just make sure you get some sort of adjustable camber kit and drive right over to an alignment shop when you're done.

Be sure and get some photos up!

 

[MS3077]

Just make sure you get some sort of adjustable camber kit and drive right over to an alignment shop when you're done.

Be sure and get some photos up!

Yeah I'm not going to do the suspension work myself. I will pay to get this done right and photos will follow!

Once I get my H&R springs and paint my calibers red...NICE!