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By that logic, the CX-3 was closer to his description and we all know how that ended!
Mazda CEO says American drivers want ICE vehicles
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The CX-3 was not a BEV vehicle, though. A BEV CX-30 or equivalent would be able to compete with the likes of the Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, Fiat 500e, etc.
Edit: I may be confusing myself, I thought you were discussing EVs but it seems like you're debating the likelihood of a smaller Mazda3 being a strong seller. Sorry about that
Why this North American wants ICE vehicles.
North American power generation won't be able to keep up with demand should the target (mandated by government) numbers for EV units be realized. A considerable amount of electricity is generated by burning petroleum and coal, not the most environmentally friendly production.
In British Columbia we have a massive hydro electric infrastructure, but have gone from surplus supply to needing to import electricity from neighboring regions. This is a result of several years of drought, and the increasing demand for electricity.
The Site C dam is nearing it's online date in the next couple of months. This project took 10 years and change and cost more than twice the projected $6 BILLION to build. That overrun equates to about $1,500 for every person living in the province. Dams aren't going to get less expensive to build and there are only so many waterways that one can be built on. We can buy a lot of gas for $1,500 each. Probably run our cars for a year or two...
Most would think that would deliver us from the power deficit. However with increasing Mandated sales of EVs and the push by government to move away from home heating with fossil fuels like natural gas, the demand for electricity will only increase. This will push rates up much like the rise in gas prices at the pump for ICE vehicles. It means the dam will also fall short of fulfilling demand for KWs virtually at it's start up.
In the rush to "green" technology, lawmakers seem to have lost sight of how much more efficient and LESS polluting ICE vehicles have become. 16 years ago we bought a Honda CRV which came with a rating of Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle. Compared to vehicles prior it contributes far less impact to the maladies affecting our planet. We still have that CRV and it is nearing the 100,000 mile mark. It has been trouble free and hopefully will continue to serve us well until we are both retired and only need the one SUV, the CX5.
This spring we added the '22 CX5 to replace the 1/2 ton truck we had. So now the 2, 4 cylinder SUVs are using less fuel combined, and thereby emitting less pollutants, than the truck did on it's own.
Somebody bit hard on the EV fruit and has successfully parlayed that into a multi billion $ boondoggle. Even if you ignore the massive damage to the environment perpetrated by lithium mining the North American market is predominately more environmentally friendly than it was when the whole EV plan was brought forward.
This electrification needs to be happening in China as it is, and places like India where rampant air pollution is legendary, and other similarly affected areas of the planet.
North American power generation won't be able to keep up with demand should the target (mandated by government) numbers for EV units be realized. A considerable amount of electricity is generated by burning petroleum and coal, not the most environmentally friendly production.
In British Columbia we have a massive hydro electric infrastructure, but have gone from surplus supply to needing to import electricity from neighboring regions. This is a result of several years of drought, and the increasing demand for electricity.
The Site C dam is nearing it's online date in the next couple of months. This project took 10 years and change and cost more than twice the projected $6 BILLION to build. That overrun equates to about $1,500 for every person living in the province. Dams aren't going to get less expensive to build and there are only so many waterways that one can be built on. We can buy a lot of gas for $1,500 each. Probably run our cars for a year or two...
Most would think that would deliver us from the power deficit. However with increasing Mandated sales of EVs and the push by government to move away from home heating with fossil fuels like natural gas, the demand for electricity will only increase. This will push rates up much like the rise in gas prices at the pump for ICE vehicles. It means the dam will also fall short of fulfilling demand for KWs virtually at it's start up.
In the rush to "green" technology, lawmakers seem to have lost sight of how much more efficient and LESS polluting ICE vehicles have become. 16 years ago we bought a Honda CRV which came with a rating of Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle. Compared to vehicles prior it contributes far less impact to the maladies affecting our planet. We still have that CRV and it is nearing the 100,000 mile mark. It has been trouble free and hopefully will continue to serve us well until we are both retired and only need the one SUV, the CX5.
This spring we added the '22 CX5 to replace the 1/2 ton truck we had. So now the 2, 4 cylinder SUVs are using less fuel combined, and thereby emitting less pollutants, than the truck did on it's own.
Somebody bit hard on the EV fruit and has successfully parlayed that into a multi billion $ boondoggle. Even if you ignore the massive damage to the environment perpetrated by lithium mining the North American market is predominately more environmentally friendly than it was when the whole EV plan was brought forward.
This electrification needs to be happening in China as it is, and places like India where rampant air pollution is legendary, and other similarly affected areas of the planet.
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The point is Compact can work in the US and Mazda got it right with the CX-30. True the CX-3 is close and did not end well but I didn’t mention it because it always seemed like a raised Mazda2 so similar in size…I’ll add the MX-30 isn’t a big seller and that is close to the CX-30 which is interesting but perhaps it’s just because of the funky design, doors and coupe like interior. Personally I dig all these models but I’m thinking in terms of the mainstream US consumer.
So bringing this back to the thread title…
Good point about a BEV CX-30…Related to what I mentioned earlier in this thread, I think powertrain is ultimately less important for Mazda…I hope Mazda is focusing on what makes them unique and quite different from Toyota, Honda etc…Whatever future powertrains are, Mazdas should always be fun to drive.
As for this thread…Seems this topic can’t help but get political which is unfortunate because that’s against Site Rules so it’s closed.
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