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JfSearcy

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What's going on? I'm currently trying (very hard) to buy an MSP, but not break my wallet, so soon I should be able to justify the hours I spend reading in here. Any advice about anything from general maintenance to first mods? Thanks folks!
 
Go synthetic oil, then get t-back exhaust, hardpipes, intake, supercharger, nitrous, boost controller set to 18psi....yeah, that's the ticket!
 
mspdfreak said:
Go synthetic oil, then get t-back exhaust, hardpipes, intake, supercharger, nitrous, boost controller set to 18psi....yeah, that's the ticket!


When using it in that context I think NOS is more appropriate term to use.
 
there are alot of quirks with this car. its a little from column a and a little from column b.

What do you want from the car? Fast in a straight line?, handling? Looks?

If you just wanna go fast in a straight line I would look elsewhere. (not to say you cant spend more money to make it fast, but without work its not)If you are interested in beating people in an autocross then you came to the right place. I would say the handling is out of this world (once you get the clunk fixed) As for the looks, ive found people that own them love them, people who dont tend to critisize. Maybe they are just jealous (naughty)
 
I test drove one in late 2003. With dealer incentives the car cost 17000 flat barnd new. That's what bothers me about private sellers asking prices. Anyway, the car was THE most fun car I've ever driven, and that's what I want is a car I can drive everyday, and have fun with. My current car (which will remain unmentioned) just falls short in that catergory, short enough that it has to reach up to touch rock bottom.
 
Hey, my 03 GTI VR6 handled like junk and I ditched it for my MSP because of that, despite the GTI's better engine. The car will outhandle anything in the price range and most stuff at any price.
 
The GTI's handle very poorly in stock form, even with the 17 inch wheel option. All season tires are partly to blame, but too-soft damping, too-small bars and too-heavy weight are also major contributors. They are set up more as a sport touring type than a sports car type. Comfortable ride at normal highway speeds, a little unsettling at high speeds on a twisty highway with that much slop in the suspension.

Both the Vr6 and 1.8t are pretty quick in a straight line. The Vr6 is tough to make a lot of extra horsepower on without FI or really tearing into it. The 1.8t is very tunable. If you're willing to tear the suspension out and start from scratch, its a good engine to work with, tough, has a big aftermarket and makes power for short $$.

Also consider the Focus SVT and the Nissan Spec V in this price range. Shop when the rebates are right and you can get an SVT or a Spec V new probably for what you'd pay for a used MSP. We paid $14.5k for my wife's SVT after $3k rebate a couple years back. Its easily as fun to drive as the MSP. I test drove the Spec V when I bought my MSP and it was a virtual toss up, the Spec was a lot less $$ and easily as fast. Suspension isn't quite as good and looks aren't as good (inside or out), but its a fun rig with a lot of torque. Its faster around town vs. the MSP because of that fat torque band. On the track, its a dead heat.
 
the SpecVs are real nice, and respond extremely well to N/A mods...the suspension leaves a lot to be desired...I mean it has a solid beam rear axle(boom07) but otherise its a great little car.
 
Thank you...I think you've hit the nail on the head.
rocketspeed said:
The GTI's handle very poorly in stock form, even with the 17 inch wheel option. All season tires are partly to blame, but too-soft damping, too-small bars and too-heavy weight are also major contributors. They are set up more as a sport touring type than a sports car type. Comfortable ride at normal highway speeds, a little unsettling at high speeds on a twisty highway with that much slop in the suspension.

Both the Vr6 and 1.8t are pretty quick in a straight line. The Vr6 is tough to make a lot of extra horsepower on without FI or really tearing into it. The 1.8t is very tunable. If you're willing to tear the suspension out and start from scratch, its a good engine to work with, tough, has a big aftermarket and makes power for short $$.

Also consider the Focus SVT and the Nissan Spec V in this price range. Shop when the rebates are right and you can get an SVT or a Spec V new probably for what you'd pay for a used MSP. We paid $14.5k for my wife's SVT after $3k rebate a couple years back. Its easily as fun to drive as the MSP. I test drove the Spec V when I bought my MSP and it was a virtual toss up, the Spec was a lot less $$ and easily as fast. Suspension isn't quite as good and looks aren't as good (inside or out), but its a fun rig with a lot of torque. Its faster around town vs. the MSP because of that fat torque band. On the track, its a dead heat.
 
if you're looking for fun factor, i PROMISE you will not be disappointed, i've driven SRT, SPEC-V, and taken rides in about 3 SVT foci, while they are ALL awesome cars, especially the incredible pull of the SRT, i love my car the most (or maybe i'm just being biased) test drive many cars before you make your decission... good luck!
 
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