Dyno #'s

[chinkysuavo]

well I got my MSP dyno'd today on a Dyno Dynamics dyno and it read 196.7hp @ 12psi, sorry no torque readings because I needed to know the A/F ratio (the temp was about 75 degrees or so but we had fans blowing into the engine bay and the hood open), any higher boost my fuel cut would come on. Either way, the dyno showed super rich at even 12psi so I think I'm good with that, I drove it around all day (city and freeway) and heard no signs of detonation or anything else....it's a lot faster now with the boost cranked up to 12, except my boost gauge is off and it reads 14-15psi. But I really trust a $150k dyno more than a $50 autometer. I will post a pic of up of the sheet tomorrow.Hope this provided some useful info!

I really think an AFC would help, any suggestions???

 

[LiLiTaLy]

nice numbers

 

[Striker187]

impressive numbers. but get a greddy emanage. safc won't work (at least the current ones).

 

[chinkysuavo]

thanks, any idea how much the greddy sells for?

 

[Striker187]

300 i think.....and that's a big i think

 

[David MPS]

Dawn its very good !!!!! but I'm scared to drive at 12psi ........... I don't want blow out my motor !

 

[ARunto]

awesome #'s...dyno dynamics read alot lower compared to dyno jet #'s...add about 15% and that's a approx # that you'll get on a dyno jet.

I like dyno dynamics dynos....they are more consistent from run to run.

-Alan

 

[chinkysuavo]

so you're saying i would get like 225 on a Dyno jet? Wow, I didnt know that!

 

[iON Performance]

chinkysuavo - nice #'s are these whp or crank hp figures? From the looks of it, it's probably crank. What loss coefficient was used for driveline loss?

For us when we dyno something, we leave it in whp so that it's a more realistic # which factors in driveline loss.

 

[ARunto]

yes...i dynoed my old integra on a dyno dynamics dyno and the best i could pull was 165whp....so knowing that these cars pull high 190's is impressive in my book.

 

[chinkysuavo]

its whp. I believe on average the loss coefficient on a FWD car is about 20%, so if you use that equation then the car is at about 235 at the crank.

 

[ARunto]

sounds about right too me...you are at 12psi...most people here are running 9-10psi. Did they measure tractive effort on your car when it was on the dyno?

 

[chinkysuavo]

I'm not too sure, all I got on the dyno sheet is HP and A/F ratio, here is the pic...if it works...k, it didnt work...hmm how do I attach a file thats on my hard drive? I tried the attachment button but it didnt show up....weird

 

[iON Performance]

chinkysuavo - not bad for 12psi boost how many pulls did you do? For baseline testing we only got about 120.6whp @ 5.5psi and it kept on dropping in power as we did more runs. This was with the hood closed, and a fan blowing @ simulating driving @ 50km/h.

 

[AGR]

Sounds real good! Maybe than around 165 or so at the wheels boosting 10psi?

 

[chinkysuavo]

it was five runs, the first was with stock boost (6-7 psi) then we gradually turned up the boost till we reached fuel cut off, then backed it off until right before the cutoff. It still read extremely rich so I just left it at 12psi. We let the car cool down for about 30 minutes before the fifth run and it still read 196.7hp. The highest we got while it was hot was 196.9hp. At about 8-9psi, my car was at 169hp, so yeah thats about right.

 

[eeterp]

well I got my MSP dyno'd today on a Dyno Dynamics dyno and it read 196.7hp @ 12psi, sorry no torque readings because I needed to know the A/F ratio (the temp was about 75 degrees or so but we had fans blowing into the engine bay and the hood open), any higher boost my fuel cut would come on. Either way, the dyno showed super rich at even 12psi so I think I'm good with that, I drove it around all day (city and freeway) and heard no signs of detonation or anything else....it's a lot faster now with the boost cranked up to 12, except my boost gauge is off and it reads 14-15psi. But I really trust a $150k dyno more than a $50 autometer. I will post a pic of up of the sheet tomorrow.Hope this provided some useful info!

I really think an AFC would help, any suggestions???

I don't understand. Why couldn't you get tq numbers? Are you saying you had to choose between A/F numbers OR tq numbers? That doesn't sound right. What's your A/F at max boost (maybe I'll just wait for the graph). If you really are running that rich, leaning out the mixture will put you over 200whp...not too shabby at all. Also, MOST people assume 15-17% drive train loss for a manuel car, regardless of FWD or RWD (AWD is a different story). Oh, and GET A BETTER BOOST GAUGE!!!! or at least one that read correctly....

 

[2001GTI1.8T]

That is very nice # wise. I'm sure the MSP shows a similar effect to the 1.8T with heatsoak due to such a small intercooler. Go for FMIC for consistent power. You will suffer a slight pressure loss with FMIC which will show up in low RMP torque. My 1.8T drops 5-10WHP after each run from cold with a stock intercooler. As for torque, most dynos show hp, torque and A/F. My estimate for your torque is 220ft/lb with 196WHP.

 

[PHRiSCo]

I was dynoed about 7 hours ago on a Dyno Dynamics. 192.2whp@5700rpm 9psi. I have the dyno sheets sitting in my car I'll post when my car is finished all the "upgrades" Im doing to it.

 

[The_Flamming_7]

Hey, nice numbers you guys! I want to see the sheetz! , yeah, no TQ numbers.....?weird.