Does size matter? a fmic question

[edaddeemsp]

I've read through many forums, visited many vendor sites, and seen many msp's on cardomain. I see a wide array of fmic's used on almost stock to raceworthy cars. I have sent emails to various companies on the sizing and power potential handling levels of their fmic kits. Most state that theirs can safely handle in the 350-400 range. I really like the size and look of the Perrin, but why would I pay the extra, if I could get the hiboost for less, and they handle the same. Could anyone further explain how a larger intercooler would only be able to handle the same as a simi smaller unit.

 

[daedalus]

It all depends on the plans you have for your car. If you are going to be pushing over 350-400hp then the Perrin will yeild better gains. For smaller output the smaller FMIC and SMICs are more than enough.

Personally I bought the Perrin b/c I love how it fills the front bumper... ALl the other FMICs all looked like they were shoved down to far due to the bumper support. But as it turns out my engine build will eventually take full advatage of the larger Perrin core.

Hope this helps.

 

[TX Speed Demon]

If you don't plan on going over 350 whp then you'd get the Perrin for looks and brand-name. Note that it relaces your bumper support with a smaller one and is hense designated as "off-road use only". There has been some concern as to the safty ramifications of the smaller support bar in a frontal crash, but I am unaware of the manufacturer's reply.

If I were building a show only I probably would have gone with the Perrin FMIC. I assume the name recognition and size would yield more points at shows than the Hiboost kit.

But I'm building a quick daily driver so the Hiboost FMIC with a Perrin SRI seemed the most appropriate for me. And I got both shipped for less than the price of the Perrin FMIC.
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Also remember the Hiboost kit is complete bolt on while the Perrin requires some cutting (although I don't think through anything important) and movement of certain wires/hoses. The Hiboost one however will not allow for a larger radiator while I belive the Perrin does. I don't think it's a big deal for normal driving, but if I were to track my car a lot during the summer, the larger radiator from a P5 would be nice.

 

[Super Matty P]

Over intercooling is a problem also. Make sure the core you choose is properly sized for your application the BEGi FMIC is the best I've seen so far. It may not LOOK as cool but it sure as hell performs.

Over-intercooling is almost as bad as under-intercooling.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

Never let anyone ever tell you size doesn't matter.

 

[low_psi]

that's what she said...

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

wait till you guys see my intercooler I'm working on..... It's gonna be....well...different.

 

[tracknfield423]

whats the problem with over intercooling??

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

usually creates lag and bigger pressure loss than really needed.

 

[Pretzellogic]

wait till you guys see my intercooler I'm working on..... It's gonna be....well...different.

I'll be stock, right?

 

[low_psi]

of course it'll be stock.

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

Why do you guys think I just bought 3 stock intercoolers? hehe. And no, it won't be stock. It will be stock Appearing. We don't want anybody to get upset.

Oh, it won't be air to air either. hehe

 

[Black Majik MSP]

wait till you guys see my intercooler I'm working on..... It's gonna be....well...different.

Wait until you see the FMIC Beau is working on...it's going to be "different" too.

 

[Pretzellogic]

Oh, it won't be air to air either. hehe

You've got to show me this.

 

[tracknfield423]

so what intercooler would be good for someone with a turbo-back exhaust, CAI, and wanting to boost around 10psi daily. this is all for the short ter, down the road i will add forged internals and emanagement.

 

[Glowmunkey]

so what intercooler would be good for someone with a turbo-back exhaust, CAI, and wanting to boost around 10psi daily. this is all for the short ter, down the road i will add forged internals and emanagement.

Any of them.... you don't need some DSM-huge front mount for 10 psi.

 

[tracknfield423]

only the ion and perrin allow you to upgrade the radiator correct? also i heard that GHL was going to come out with an intercooler, anyone have info on that

 

[Black Majik MSP]

Wait for MAM...it will allow for an upgraded radiator & utilize a piping route unlike anything you've seen before.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

too big of an intercooler and you lose pressure. Think of it as trying to suck lots of air through a convoluted jungle of pipes.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

Wait for MAM...it will allow for an upgraded radiator & utilize a piping route unlike anything you've seen before.

or just hijack it from audi's..They've been running radiator/intercooler combos for about 15 years now. For instance on a 20V turbo RS2 the intercooler and radiator are vertical, sitting side by side, each taking up equal amounts of space. There are lots of cool things you can do.