beware - rental cars

I beat the living CRAP out of a rental chevy cobalt that I got stuck with. Fun car too. Especially when you're doing parking lot 180's and reverse donuts.
 
I busted the 4wd system on the chevy colorado I was renting. it had 3k miles on it. front hubs were grinding making horrible noises so I brought the truck back in 2wd so they never knew lol.
 
I'm in Boise, and I didn't see any Mazda 5's around me being rented, maybe I'll just give Hertz a call and find out where they're renting them, maybe it'll be on my way to the midwest in the spring and I can swap cars with em for a week. I'll be buying a brand new one eventually I suspect
 
Minivan Rental Info

Market Collapse
Detroit 3 count on fleet sales to move minivans


By RICK KRANZ | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS

AutoWeek | Published 01/02/07, 11:31 am et

SLUMP
Consumers are bailing out of minivans. Here are annual retail registrations.
2001: 969,342
2002: 906,036
2003: 807,059
2004: 836,868
2005: 818,823
2006: 611,191*
* First 10 months
Source: R.L. Polk

DETROIT -- Simply put, Detroit 3 minivan sales are even worse than you thought.

The Detroit 3 are relying on fleet customers -- both corporate customers and daily rental companies, such as Hertz -- to prevent a minivan sales debacle.

In the first 10 months of 2006, fleet sales accounted for about 65 percent of Ford Freestar sales, about 62 percent of Chevrolet Uplander sales and about 42 percent of Dodge Caravan and Grand Caravan sales.

By comparison, fleets accounted for 1 percent of Honda Odyssey sales in the same period. Overall, fleets accounted for about 27 percent of all minivan sales.

The estimates were generated by the Automotive News Data Center, which compared its own overall sales data to retail vehicle registrations provided by R.L. Polk. Fleet sales involve the purchase of 10 or more vehicles.

The data explain why Ford Motor Co. and General Motors are bailing out of traditional minivans. The Chrysler group, on the other hand, is defending its turf. The company has restyled and re-engineered the 2008 Dodge Caravan and Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & County, which will debut at the Detroit auto show next week.

Meanwhile, the import brands generally have avoided a meltdown. Retail sales of the Odyssey and Toyota Sienna remain steady, although the Nissan Quest continues to struggle.

Among the imports, only the Mazda5 and Kia Sedona generate significant fleet sales. Through October, fleet customers purchased 28 percent of all Mazda5s and 17 percent of all Sedonas.

OK isn't good enough

The minivan segment is getting tougher because many retail customers are switching to crossovers to haul families and their gear. Through October, retail buyers purchased 621,594 minivans, down 12.7 percent compared with the year-ago period.

As retail demand declines, overall minivan sales could fail to top 1 million units in 2006, their worst result in 13 years.

"We are basically looking at roughly 700,000 in retail registrations this year," says Ford sales analyst George Pipas. "As the sales volume trails off, the first thing that happens is that the domestics turn to the daily rental business."

The Ford Freestar and Aerostar were "OK" vehicles, Pipas says, despite a significant Freestar re-engineering for the 2004 model year.

GM did not invest heavily to upgrade its minivans, and sales suffered.

"You just can't be OK when you are competing against Honda and Toyota," Pipas says. "The segment is getting too small to try to be an Odyssey wannabe. It will take you years to get a reputation to get up to that level. That accounted for our kind of just taking a whole different tack on this people-mover category."

Chrysler thinks the sales slide is temporary. Ann Fandozzi, director of global product markets for the Chrysler group, blames the tightening economy and the spike in gasoline price in 2006 for the minivan sales slide.

Chrysler sees overall minivan sales increasing "and stabilizing at about the 1.2 million-unit mark," she said at a press event in December.

No mommymobiles

The Detroit 3 are at an interesting crossroads for the segment.

Chrysler invested heavily in the 2008 Dodge Caravan and Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & Country, with a conventional exterior and an innovative interior.

But sources say General Motors will phase out its traditional minivans -- the Chevrolet Uplander, Buick Terraza and Saturn Relay -- by 2010 and replace them with mid-sized crossovers. The first of these crossovers are the 2007 Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia.

Meanwhile, Ford is producing an eight-passenger crossover for the 2009 model year. The vehicle, inspired by a recent concept called the Fairlane, will try to provide the minivan's family-hauling functions in a more stylish package. It lacks, for instance, the traditional minivan's sliding doors.

The Fairlane-inspired vehicle will be pitched to post-baby boom adults, generations X and Y, who likely spent a good portion of their childhoods scooting around in minivans and now don't want a mommymobile.

These younger adults simply aren't buying traditional minivans, says Jim Hall, vice president of AutoPacific, a consulting firm in Southfield, Mich.

He adds: "The minivan market is collapsing."

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I've bought several off fleet/rental cars in the past and never had a problem and wouldn't flinch an eye at picking up another.

I'm actually looking at a Whitewater Pearl Sport 5 here in Georgia that just come out of fleet. It has 14k miles on it and not a scratch on it. Shows no signs of any prior accidents or repairs. I can get it for $15,230 out the door after tax, title and everything. ($13,999 purchase price). That's the cheapest one I've found within 1000 miles that hasn't been in an accident or beat to hell. I'm probably going to pick it up this weekend if everything is in order with the dealer.
 
Well I picked it up this morning... 06 Sport with auto, 14,300 miles, whitewater pearl. One stone chip on the front air dam and it was a RENTAL.

OMG it's going to break cause is was beat to hell!!!

Seriously though. It is nearly mint. Drives perfect. Went though it top to bottom and it has never been in any accidents or had any body repairs on it. Now I just have to get some tints, maybe a powered sub to improve SQ and a DVD player for my kids... Woohoo.
 
ya, when my work sent my team to cali for a week we had a Sacremento Seabring Drift compition in the hotel parking lot. The Ebrakes were never the same lol
 
if the freestyle, uplander, and caravan weren't such ugly boring pieces of s****, people would buy them... people are buying odysseys and siennas because they have relatively decent styling, kick ass interiors, and loaded with luxury features

the issue now of course is the odyssey and sienna sales won't go up because their styling is just "decent' and not ass kicking... the new MPV in japan looks hot and is definately easily to pimp out... just try doing that with a sienna... NO WAY! even the new toyota estima (previa) that came out in 99 shortly after the sienna came out in the US looks hot... those vans in japan are expensive and american sized, but people who have the money there DO buy these "wagons" because of the space it gives and the amount of s*** they can do to make it look even nicer

as for the nissan quest, it's an ugly slapped together snail, that's why no one wants to buy them... plus the reliability is so-so... other than that, it has all the kick ass features you'd want from a modern minivan

and fuel economy? well that can be done if you stuck a 4 banger in it... but with the horsepower wars these days, people aren't going to buy a 4 banger minivan because it's "slow" and it "can't tow"... realistically, you aren't going to haul ass in a minivan, nor tow s*** anyway 99% of the time... the mazda5 is successful because it's not a full blown minivan (hence why it's easily "excused" for the lack of power), and has awesome gas mileage... looking back 15 years ago, when the first toyota previa came out, it was the only 4 banger minivan sold in the US... people still bought them because it was the roomiest of the bunch, had futuristic styling (which is in some ways still ahead of its time), reliable, and great gas mileage (I get around 24mpg in mine)... sure it's slow, but it has enough TORQUE and power to move it and stay moving... it's very easy to do 100+ in it SAFELY... many minivans these days can't go past 90 without being all over the place... by the time they came out with the supercharged version (which made it even better), it got too expensive on a already expensive minivan... it got into the chrysler town & country territory... the only saving grace was the leather/luxury package that came out in the later years, but it was still a deal killer because it had no V6 and can't tow as much as the town & country simply because of no V6... I think it's still better than the town & country of the same years because the previa is RWD, more reliable, looks better in and out, and handles way better (the only "van" that can outhandle the previa these days in the US is the mazda5)
 

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