Aftermarket Exhaust questions, need expert help

BrianFiebig

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OK, the car is in the shop for the next 10 days to 3 weeks (got backed into in the parking lot at work, caught on camera, guy didnt want to fess up until I started getting beligerent...LONG story) so I'm taking this time to do some research on a few things.
Just picked up an AEM CAI with straightener, looking for a new BPV (had a line on a SSQV, lost it, Forge?) and now Im about ready to get into exhaust. I'll probably do a ED/ebay FMIC combo later, but one step at a time (cant hide the FMIC... powdercoat it red or black...? thermal transmission of powdercoating?).
SO, a few assumptions here:
1. With the straight thru design of the stock exhaust, a CBE is really only for the sound, with nominal gains in performance catagories.
2. The bottle neck in the exhaust is the down pipe.
3. Ergo, given 1. and 2., the way to improve performance across the board while maintaining the sleeper design that Mazda and the Devil intended is to replace the downpipe. This will yield faster turbo spool, more power, a change in exhaust tone (minor consideration) and quite probably better economy.
THE PROBLEM:
I live in one of those areas that requires emissions inspections every 2 years. So I need to make sure Im going to pass my smog tests, on a motor that is fatter then Rosie O'Donnell.
THE QUESTION(s):
Anyone here know what the specifics are for passing a Virginia State Emissions test (not the particle stuff, THAT I can find) but the visual part of the inspection. My understanding is that they actually look under the car, and if they dont see the requisite number of pieces and parts (like the cats) its grounds for failure. WALL OF TEXT TO FOLLOW:
(Taken from the VA DEQ) The program includes gasoline powered vehicles with a model year of less than 25 years prior to January 1 of the current calendar year, with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less. The gross vehicle weight rating, which is determined by the manufacturer, is the weight of the vehicle plus the maximum weight the vehicle is designed to carry. In many cases, emissions are tested while the vehicle is driven on a dynamometer at only 15 mph and 25 mph. Most 1996 and newer vehicles will receive a test of the vehicle's on-board diagnostic computer system instead of the regular tailpipe emissions test. Most vehicles will also receive a gas cap pressure test to detect excessive fuel vapor leakage. For all gasoline powered vehicles, a visual smoke inspection, and an inspection of certain emissions control equipment that was originally installed by the manufacturer will be conducted.
SO the bottom line is, who makes a DP/RP/TP that will pass the visual inspection, as in correct number of cats, no CEL issues (just in case they can see that the ECU is being tricked when they plug it in), and at the same time be rid of the bottleneck in the DP. No point in spending money on a DP if it isnt going to do anything, or if im gonna have to eat a big fat ticket and rip the thing off anyway.
Sorry about the novel, but I have some time and want to be able to purchase something while the car is in the shop with the confidance that Im not doing something stupid.
THANKS.
 
Quick update:

Much to my considerable surprise, the shop was able to turn the car around in 8 hours...Said they just happen to have been owed a favor and got an already painted bumper delivered before noon.
Still want to know what people think, further research seems to have the options limited to the Cobb for 680 something, and the CP-e for 725 +/-...
 
only DP's i've seen have 1 cat or none. our car has two.

best bet is to make friends with someone who does emissions and that will pass it for you and look the other way
 
It depends on county, too. Here they'll do a visual inspection and plug into the OBD-II to check for codes, that's it. Some people have gotten away with convincing the inspector that a resonator is a catalytic converter, while others go in for the inspection immediately after a brisk drive to warm up the o2 sensors. Again, Haymarket might work differently.
 
Im not in Haymarket proper, just on the other side of 66, but its prince william county either way, so I have to pass the visual. Hrm, wonder if I took the precat, split it along the seem, busted the innards out, then re-attached it around an aftermarket DP so it LOOKED like it was attached....
 
There is actually a third downpipe available now that I just put in my car and plan on posting a review.
 
You could always buy the corksport DP/MP combo and run catless. The swap out the MP back to stock for smog testing.
 
What about getting a catted dp and an uncatted RP? Keep your old second cat and put it back in place of the RP for the test.

If the fitment is compatable, the RP switchout for your test can be done in about five minutes with one wrench.

I'm just speculating about whether there would be any fitment issues, because there can be flange and gasket variations among the various DP/RP combos.

But DP/RP is a great way to nice power gains in combo with a good CAI like the AEM.
 
What about getting a catted dp and an uncatted RP? Keep your old second cat and put it back in place of the RP for the test.

If the fitment is compatable, the RP switchout for your test can be done in about five minutes with one wrench.

I'm just speculating about whether there would be any fitment issues, because there can be flange and gasket variations among the various DP/RP combos.

But DP/RP is a great way to nice power gains in combo with a good CAI like the AEM.

If you get the Stainless Works one like I did...that's exactly what you get.
 
Not sure if the Stainless Works will pass the eyeball test either. From my understanding, the inspector will be looking for both a cat and the precat. The cat on the Stainless Works looks like a bulge in the pipe and would probably be ok, but with no precat, or something that looks like one, Im still looking at failure.
 
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