2024 Mazda CX-90 Turbo S vs 2022 BMW X5 40i

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On paper it looks like Mazda benchmarched BMW. Almost same power, almost same weight, same height and same gear ratio. The CX-90 is bigger.
 

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Well that's interesting. Do you think it's safe to say that it will be just as fast from 0-60, if not faster?
 
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Wow, nice work and boy, they do look similar. The CX-90 could be one fast car.
 

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Hi,

On paper it looks like Mazda benchmarched BMW. Almost same power, almost same weight, same height and same gear ratio. The CX-90 is bigger.
..."on paper".
I recall hearing that German manufacturers are renowned for underrating their engines so I am very curious to see real world camparos!
 
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..."on paper".
I recall hearing that German manufacturers are renowned for underrating their engines so I am very curious to see real world camparos!

Yeah, that is a good point. And the BMW X-drive system is really good at putting the power down.
 

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I figured it would be too good to be true lol. Still, if the CX-90 Turbo S clocks in the low 6s I think that's good enough to compare the two.
 
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So does anyone think the reliability of these cars will be identical past the warranty period?
 

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Reliability is up in the air since we don't have any real world ownership data on the CX-90. Cost of ownership should be in Mazda's favour, though.
 

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There is a reason you lease a German car and not buy it.

Yep. I've never leased a car before, but I always hear about BMW in particular having great leasing options. Plus, you'll never have to worry about out-of-warranty repairs if you lease.
 
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This video explains what is commonly known as "1-ft rollout".
That is how auto mag measures 0-60 time.
So, in real world testing when you drive it, add 0.3-0.5sec to it.

 
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Yep. I've never leased a car before, but I always hear about BMW in particular having great leasing options. Plus, you'll never have to worry about out-of-warranty repairs if you lease.

My brother is a BMW guy, and has always been; but his $4-5,000 repair bills are just crazy. His last things that was considered "minor" was a $3,000 repair for the temperature gauge.
 

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I figured it would be too good to be true lol. Still, if the CX-90 Turbo S clocks in the low 6s I think that's good enough to compare the two.
I don't know if it's likely, but if the Turbo S can get to high 5s, it'll be a real bargain for the speed and size combo. Just cause the MDX gets low 6s, and the type S gets mid 5s (Not 100% sure on those numbers but pretty sure). I just hope it feels super luxurious AND like a mazda, because the features per price don't seem to be the highlight of the cx90. If it drives more controlled and athletically than most of the luxury competitors then I think it'll attract of lot of buyers purely for the driving experience. One can hope, but we shall see.
 
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BMW often underrates their turbo engines.

One example is the recent Toyota Supra, which has BMW Z4's 3.0L turbo inline-6.
It is officially rated at 382hp.
Owners have taken them to the dyno and found it severely underrated.
(more than 420hp at the crank)
 
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This video explains what is commonly known as "1-ft rollout".
That is how auto mag measures 0-60 time.
So, in real world testing when you drive it, add 0.3-0.5sec to it.

Car and driver has always achieved the best 0-60 times because their test is actually very close to 0-60 with no rollout. They have added a 5-60 MPH time and publish both. Mid, rear engine, and all- wheel drive vehicles have an advantage with 0-60 times, all other things being equal.
 
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Reliability is up in the air since we don't have any real world ownership data on the CX-90. Cost of ownership should be in Mazda's favour, though.
Yes, but the brand's overall reliability has always been "better-than-average", whereas BMW's has been average or below average.
Their overall ratings by Consumer Reports are excellent because of their performance/ride/handling/braking attributes. Less than good relability does weigh them down.
 
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I don't know if it's likely, but if the Turbo S can get to high 5s, it'll be a real bargain for the speed and size combo. Just cause the MDX gets low 6s, and the type S gets mid 5s (Not 100% sure on those numbers but pretty sure). I just hope it feels super luxurious AND like a mazda, because the features per price don't seem to be the highlight of the cx90. If it drives more controlled and athletically than most of the luxury competitors then I think it'll attract of lot of buyers purely for the driving experience. One can hope, but we shall see.
Car & Driver writer, David Bedard, described the Mazda CX-50 as the "Macan of mainstream SUVs that feels like it was developed on twisty roads." Now that's a great compliment! Mazda knows how to inject great handling into their vehicles.
 
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Car and driver has always achieved the best 0-60 times because their test is actually very close to 0-60 with no rollout. They have added a 5-60 MPH time and publish both. Mid, rear engine, and all- wheel drive vehicles have an advantage with 0-60 times, all other things being equal.
C&D used to make correction for the 1-ft rollout by measuring from 3mph to 60mph.
Since 2019, they changed to actual 1-ft rollout (a convention from drag strip) based on their more accurate equipment.