2022 CX-5?

yrwei52

2016 Mazda CX-5 GT AWD w/Tech Pkg
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It's kind of interesting the FWD Corolla Cross sold in Asia has a rear torsion beam suspension while the AWD has an independent rear.
Because a driveshaft is needed going through the front to rear underneath for the AWD, which will intervene with the rear torsion beam which goes from left to right. So the AWD doesn’t use torsion beam rear suspension.

On my previous 2001.5 VW Passat, the FWD has the torsion beam rear suspension, but the 4Motion AWD is also switched to independent rear suspension.
 
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2021 CX-9 Sig
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2014 CX-5 GT
That is interesting to hear. I thought for sure that the difference would be noticeable on terrible roads. Are the roads you drive on better or worse than these?

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Those look like great roads. Remember, I am in America. Now I would not doubt that a full multi-link suspension is better at the certain situations but what I am saying is that Mazda 3 did not take a huge step back with the torsion beam suspension.
 
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2017 Mazda 6 Sport
Because a driveshaft is needed going through the front to rear underneath for the AWD, which will intervene with the rear torsion beam which goes from left to right. So the AWD doesn’t use torsion beam rear suspension.

On my previous 2001.5 VW Passat, the FWD has the torsion beam rear suspension, but the 4Motion AWD is also switched to independent rear suspension.
I'm looking at the underside of an AWD CX-30 right now and it has the rear torsion beam
 
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2017 Mazda CX-5 GT, 2016 Mazda6 iGT, 2014 Mazda3 sGT hatchback
Because a driveshaft is needed going through the front to rear underneath for the AWD, which will intervene with the rear torsion beam which goes from left to right. So the AWD doesn’t use torsion beam rear suspension.

On my previous 2001.5 VW Passat, the FWD has the torsion beam rear suspension, but the 4Motion AWD is also switched to independent rear suspension.
yrwei52,
CX30 AWD has torsion beam and AWD.
Yes, torsion beam + AWD is a challenge for packing, but not impossible obviously. Mazda did it.
 

yrwei52

2016 Mazda CX-5 GT AWD w/Tech Pkg
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Plano, Texas, USA
yrwei52,
CX30 AWD has torsion beam and AWD.
Yes, torsion beam + AWD is a challenge for packing, but not impossible obviously. Mazda did it.
Of course it’s doable. It needs more space so that the drive shaft and torsion beam can be crossed without intervene with each other. Apparently it’ll waste more interior space which is precious for the vehicle. That’s why Toyota and VW choose rear independent suspension for the AWD. This’s just logical for the design.

Of course Mazda has always been wanting to be different from others on design, whether it’s logical or not.
 
Mazda confirmed that they will not be using Toyota parts in any of the new 5 CUVs.


According to an interview with the Mazda Public Relations Department regarding this matter,

・ All five models are Mazda original new models, for example, there are no plans to receive OEM supply or provision from Toyota.
 
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2019 CX-5 Signature
yrwei52,
CX30 AWD has torsion beam and AWD.
Yes, torsion beam + AWD is a challenge for packing, but not impossible obviously. Mazda did it.
What’s the effect of AWD on the driving dynamics of torsion beam vs independent suspension?
I had a CX-30 loaner for a day but I was more aware of feeling claustrophobic and the terrible rear views than the actual performanice.
 

HardRightEdg

US 2020 CX-5 Touring AWD Soul Red
What’s the effect of AWD on the driving dynamics of torsion beam vs independent suspension?
I had a CX-30 loaner for a day but I was more aware of feeling claustrophobic and the terrible rear views than the actual performance.
I haven't driven one, but in the most general terms the Mazda torsion beam design should be considered a semi-independent rear, generally thought to not offer as much variation in up-down travel and twist between the two wheels as a fully independent set-up. You're likely to feel more of a jolt when hitting a bump or pothole. As for smooth road driving, reviewers disagree on its handling. As mentioned before, Car & Driver likes the handling quite a bit, others less so.

For one take on the subject, see the following video:


The following video provides views of how it behaves under very aggressive maneuvers. Note that the right hand pane is in slow mo--much of this video is at 70-80 mph revving around 4000 - 4500 RPM. The lower left hand pane shows a fair amount of independent travel. One caveat--this is a European Skyactive-X version not sold in North America. I don't think they put in a fully independent suspension in this version. Somebody else can chime in on that. If this is in fact the torsion beam rear, it looks pretty competent to me.


As for being claustrophobic, it is in the subcompact class after all. Some others in the class might be a little taller or wider inside, but you're dealing with a bunch of fairly small vehicles. As for limited rear view that's actually a Consumer Reports knock on the CX-5 as well when compared to the Forester.

It's a styling trend, with so many vehicles with some combination of high belt line, sloping rear roof or a chunky D-pillar. If backup motion detection and blind spot detection doesn't do it for some, then another vehicle closer to a squared off two-box design might be the better choice depending on other personal tradeoffs in those vehicles.
 
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