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Having owned a few Mazda's between my wife and I, and a couple VW's, Richard is right on. It's amazing how many years VW has been known for electrical problems. Even broken window regulators took way too many years for them to sort out (I went through three myself, and helped several other...

Hey Mac, if you don't mind my asking, which dealers were giving you the $13,000 price? I'm over in Central Oregon and our local dealers are generally a joke (bought my wife's Subaru over in Salem for way less than they wanted on this side of the mountain). Thinking about picking up a Mazda2...