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Agreed. I've run pure winter tires driving in Europe. I just found these to be a good all-around tire for the environment I drive in.

I've driven them on snow packed twisty roads with patches of ice underneath and thought they were very stable. I could feel the rear end start to drift just a little before the AWD would compensate. As far as "black ice", I don't see much of that where I live and I think only studded tires would...

I recently purchased a 2015 AWD Touring model and found the Geolander's totally inadequate for winter and mountain driving in Colorado. I'm a big fan of Hankook Dynapro ATM's and exchanged the Yokahama's for new tires in 235/65R17. Absolutely a drastic improvement in ride quality and traction. I...