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Please share the recent results of your "skilled" negotiations. Can you post the details of your last new vehicle purchase, including all the pertinent details? What do you even drive? There's a reason mainstream dealers don't like selling EV's. It's because they can't compete with the likes of...

LOL Yeah, because they don't want to pay thousands over the original sticker price. Not every buyer is stupid. If you're an educated buyer, you go in knowing what you should be paying. You can either chose to negotiate, or just walk out. The problem being, it's not easy to find another local...

Thanks for confirming your bias. I do agree that there are buyers out there that expect dealers to lose money. They are in a very small minority, though. I also agree that not all dealers are shady, but they too seem to be dwindling as of late. I don't know how old you are, but I've been...

Are you implying that the customer is the aggressor? That's laughable. The educated customer knows the value of the product they're purchasing. The seller hopes they don't and tries hard to maximize profit by using all sorts of shady tactics. It wasn't always this bad. They need to go the way of...

My issue with typical car dealers is not with their financing rates. That's probably the most transparent part of the process. If they aren't offering a special rate, like 0%, you can usually do better with a bank or credit union. You should already be preapproved before stepping in. If they can...

You must not keep up on Tesla in the US. They have substantially dropped pricing here over the past year, which has upset many early adopters.

No, it is not even a thing. No one anywhere is currently selling a BEV with 621 mile range. From BYD: You can currently get a Lucid with more range, in the US:

You stated that the 621 mile range is the norm, which it clearly isn't. It's not even available to purchase in a vehicle. If PHEV fits your needs, go for it. I currently have both a BEV and an ICE. I personally would rather have both, than a single vehicle compromising on both technologies.

It seems like you're referring to the concept Ocean X. It is far from the "norm", let alone even in production.

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From 2 years ago: https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/06/15/ev-battery-can-reach-98-charge-in-less-than-10-minutes/

This is why we traded in our CX-5 for a Model Y. LOL https://youtu.be/tzA0U53HF2g?si=HOoT2TtAz0Z4C0Bn

Congrats! Which M3 version did you get? We love our MYLR, but now I want to trade my other ICE for the new M3P! Can't wait to test drive one once they get here.

We were for the time we had them. We drove about 13k miles then sold the car. Much better than the crappy Toyo's.

Michelin Cross Climate 2's. They were great tires.

What's the MPG rating when the battery is depleted? Like when you take it on a cross country trip. How many of those trips do you take in an average year? I ask, because we were once concerned with range anxiety, but since buying our Model Y, have never had any real concerns. We've taken a...

A large number of your complaints are based on what I bolded, above. I hate sounding like a broken record, but I hope this was a learning experience for you. You really need to do better research before you end up purchasing another vehicle you end up disliking.

Why do you think I didn't notice they were hybrids? That should have been a given, as it's clearly shown. I was just pointing out the error in your statement that they are cheaper and don't compete. You have a top trim Signature, so I chose to compare top trims. The closest competitor to the...

The CX-5 is a direct competitor to the Rav4 and CR-V, whether you believe it or not. Prices are very much competitive, too. Not "thousands" of dollars less. These are top trims of each: I would chose the CX-5 Signature all day, over the other 2. The others have better fuel economy, but...