Short Shifter Installation troubles please help!

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slowyellowp5

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I bought the Kartboy shifter and bushings and installed it no trouble, excpept I have one problem. The shifter is moving up and down (vertically) and I don't know why. It goes into 1st, 3rd, and 5th no problem, but 2nd 4th and reverse are hard to get into. If I push down on it (I guess in the position its supposed to be) it goes into the latter gears ok. So I don't thing it's banging into anything on the bottom of the car because it is able to get in to all the gears if I position it just right. I think it might be that annoying little spring on top, but I can't be too sure. I had trouble getting that in but no I get it in almost every try, obviously I have tried removing it and putting it back in a few times. It frustrates me that it's this LAST little piece that is probably causing me all the problems. PLEASE HELP! I just need to figure out how to keep it in place vertically..
 
What probably happened is the retaining snap ring came out of the slot and allowed the plastic tension ring to move up. Take the boot and shift knob back off and check that first. the snap ring's a pain just make sure everything is pressed down as far as it'll go and the snap ring's in the right groove.
 
yeah what he said. :)

the snapring can be a real PIA sometimes. it also helps to have a good set of snap ring pliers. that makes all the difference.
keep me posted
 
I love that. The guy has a problem and Tom helps him out. That is great customer service. If I didn't already have a B&M I would buy from Kartboy. More companies need to follow Kartboy's example.
 
Thanks 20E and Tom...I will try that. THe problem is I Don't have that tool, I am using needle nose plyers in the holes...yea it's a REAL pain. But anyway, when you said the plastic tension ring you meant the white o-ring that goes on the shifter under the ball? Fortunately I left the console off in case something like this happened, but now I am going to jack the car back up and possible just take this thing out and put it back in...now I need to find someone to hold it on top...argh it's ALWAYS this little stuff I hate that... :)
 
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Dunno how much this helps...but it looks like everything is perfect, doesn't it? :wtf:
 

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Slowyellow, looks almost good...the little plastic o-ring goes on top of the sifter ball, and the snap ring doesn't look quite like it's in the groove, it's kind of hard to tell from the pic though. One piece of advice is go down to the local auto store invest 5 bucks in a pair of snap ring pliers..it's well worth it. tip two...see those small cut outs in the ring next to the holes for the pliers...use a small flat blade screw driver there just to slightly pry downwards to get the ring fully seated.
 
Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna go try that (I don't have a ride to get the plyers now though). A couple questions...you said the plastic o-ring goes on top of the ball? I don't remember that, but which plastic one are you talking about? The white one (there are two) or that itty-bitty black plastic one? Either way, after all this is said and done...how is all this gonna prevent several inches of movement like I am getting now? It just seems like it has to be something more than a slightly misplaced snap ring to me.
 
there's two white plastic rings . . . one goes below the ball on the shifter, one goes above. then the snap ring goes in to secure everything in there.

also, just to voice again, the snapring doesn't look like it's seated properly in the back there.

FYI, i used a very small flathead screwdriver on the snapring. wish i had the right tool, but it was late and i was dirty, the screwdriver had to do. ;)

peter
 
AHHH IM AN IDIOT OMG thanks so much man, I was wondering why it had two rings on bottom...jesus I need to pay more attention when I take that stuff out, ok I'm going to put one on top of the ball, that sounds like that would hold it..that's the amount it was going up and down...ahh everything is coming together...now I just have to get that damned ring back in...ok thanks a lot everyone I love this board!
 
(rofl)

good luck! glad to help out (especially because i called tom @ kartboy about the damned snap ring when i was installing mine... :D).

peter
 
Woohoo ok got everything done, it feels great! Does anybody else have an awful time getting the screws back in through the console? It's like you need a perfect angle but it never stays that way...happened with all four of my bottom ones, took my half an hour...oh well

Anyway, thanks for the help, I love it, certainly worth the hundred bones :)
 
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