Aftermarket radiators

so its a full length, like p-5 and speed height
I am ok with this, as I'm getting rid of the side mount int.
Will we need brackets also, what would be the extra cost for them
 
As it looks like you will be going with the MSP height and sedan/P5 width, custom mounting brackets will be required. Not a big deal I know, but it will save everyone who buys one of these radiators the hassle of having to make their own brackets. It will be a relatively small cost addition to have a batch of brackets made up with the radiators.

Keep up the good work. (cool)

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)
 
^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)

I was gonna say.. I've never had the pleasure of tracking, but this is part of why I went with a smaller IC core...
 
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^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)


True, I'm more of a highway track kinda guy. But the larder radiator should definitely help out with the over heating. I'm down for this GB.
 
^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

Well, Im kinda hoping that DocB Racing will include them with the radiators. Seems a bit counter-intuitive that we have to go out after they are made and then wait for brackets to be made. It just makes sense to me that as they will be involved with designing the radiator that it should come with the brackets so we can mount them straight up (rockon)
 
^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)


You can see the size of the intercooler we use on our "track car" in the pic below. With an upgraded aluminum radiator we have not had cooling problems.
 

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Well, Im kinda hoping that DocB Racing will include them with the radiators. Seems a bit counter-intuitive that we have to go out after they are made and then wait for brackets to be made. It just makes sense to me that as they will be involved with designing the radiator that it should come with the brackets so we can mount them straight up (rockon)

I have done a bit of R&D on this topic.

If we go with the MSP height on the radiator, then fitment into a sedan or P5 will require new top brackets. The OE MSP brackets (in the top pic) should work fine for this. Of course, the fitment into an MSP with a FMIC would already have the brackets and not need new ones.

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If we go with the sedan height, then the only fitment that would need new brackets are the MSP's with FMIC. They could use the OE sedan brackets which are available from onlinemazdaparts for less than $9/ea.

At this time I am inclined to go with the sedan height since I know the sedan brackets will remain readily available. Also, I am trying to make this as cost effective as possible.

Below is a pic of our race car with a similar aluminum radiator that was sedan height and with OE sedan brackets.

Nothing is final yet as we are still in the R&D stages of the radiator build.
 

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I think that everyone should do performance thin fans set. I saw two 12" thin fans for sale on ebay for $39.95 including shipping BRAND NEW. They are the same performance specs that the Street unit site has and a fraction of the cost. That should be the best way to enhance the performance of the radiator.
 
I understand that there will be cost implications if you go to MSP height - both in terms of the radiator itself and the need to make new brackets. I just think that if had to do 20-30 sets of brackets, they could be done for not a whole lot.

The other thing that should be considered is the market-ability of the radiator. If you go with the sedan height, then it could be perceived that people are buying a more expensive OEM radiator or a cheap copy of an AWR or Corksport radiator. All I'm saying is that by going to MSP height and getting a nice look and some flush-ness (yes, I just made that word up :p ) then you would have something unique and that generate more interest.

Thats just my 2c. I know that there is a way to go through the R&D process and you will keep us up to date with developments.

On a side note, the Autoexe strut bar is quite similar to the blue one shown. Hopefully, I can install my Autoexe on the car this weekend and post some pics :)
 
You can see the size of the intercooler we use on our "track car" in the pic below. With an upgraded aluminum radiator we have not had cooling problems.

thanks. quite similiar to mine.. although, vegas is a little hotter than most places. and tracking on a 3.1 mile course at teh end up september just isnt fair for any car. :P

(this is when i had cooling issues; oh and at mazfest 09)
 
i really need one of these..... did a 2 day NASA track event this weekend, and couldn't get through either day without cooling issues :[


progress!? :D
 
i really need one of these..... did a 2 day NASA track event this weekend, and couldn't get through either day without cooling issues :[


progress!? :D


We are awaiting a prototype so that fitment can be assured. So unfortunately, it still is going to be abit for this to be ready....trying to get this done ASAP!!
 
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