225/55R19 Tire Comparison Table for CX-5 GT - Many to Choose From

I am replacing the stock Toyo A23 this month when I change from winter tires. Got 45,949km out of the Toyo's.

In Canada, of course the prices are much more - here's what I've found for replacement for 19" 2015 tires for those looking (these are H and V rated), Costco only offer 1 V rated tire in Canada. Price is all in (tax, install, disposal, rebates).


Michelin LTX Costco 1238.93
General Tire - Altimax RT43 OK Tire 1151.84
Pirelli Cinturato Mazda 1116.90
Bridgestone Ecopia Mazda 1007.96

I was originally going to do the Michelin but too expensive, but am now thinking Pirelli or General Tire.

My COSTCO tire guy tells me that their Michelin Defender LTX is a good alternative to their Premier LTX as it has greater tread depth and therefore a longer mileage warranty(115,000km vs 100,000 km), BUT, for the CX-5 the only size available is 235/55/19 which will work just fine. While I had the Premier LTX's on my previous CX-5(and really liked how they performed) I may consider the Defender LTX's next time around in 2 or 3 years when my oem Toyo's are toast.
 
Great. thanks! What about a 245x55x19? (wow) ....
Not gonna work bud, the wider the tyre the lower the profile to keep in line with stock tire. To keep as closest to stock you can go either 245x50x19, stay stock tyre or a bigger rim size as those are the only options.
 
You can go for 245x50x19 as some has tested without problems. 255x55x19 is untested and I'm not sure any 255 tyre can fit. Speedometer reading will also be out much more than the 245.

Has it been tested cruising around, or through the full articulation of the suspension?
 
Hi fbwazoomzoom , I guess I really got lucky with my Toyo A24 255/55/r19 tires, as I have 45,000 mile with thread depths at 3/32 and one at 4/32. And I only kept the air pressure at 35 psi. Now it's time for some new ones and the reason I ended up in this thread.

The General AltiMAx RT43 which everyone seems to like is $156 at Walmart plus $50 rebate from manufacture = $144.50. Which is a lot higher then what has been posted last year when this thread started.

My dealer pushing the Yokohama Geolandar G055. I can get the them from Walmart for $156. But that tire seems to be on the bottom of the list so I not sure I would want them. Haven't seen must talk about them. And I think they may also have a $50 rebate so same price. Any thought on these tires?

Then there is the Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S Plus which seems to also be popular which are at Sams for $188 - $20/tire rebate = $168. So they are only a little less than a $100 more for the Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S Plus and some folks seems to like them better than the General RT43.

It appears as if the price of tire went up since the start of this thread in 2018, some people got some pretty good deals last year at Discount Tires, none around my area and even their prices seems to be up. My tire lasted longer but prices went up, did I save or not? Haha

Any thought on the Geolandars? Or should I just eliminate them from consideration and try to decide if the P7s are worth $100 more than than RT43s?

Thanks
There's a more recent table in post #76 of this thread. At the time Yokohama Geolandar G055 was rated #14 out of 28 crossover/SUV touring all-season tires from TireRack, which is not good. 65,000-mile warranty is the same as General AltiMAX RT43.

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus is a H-rated tire. Some say Pirelli would void the manufacture warranty as our OE Toyo is a V-rated tire. And its maximum inflation pressure is only 44 psi, not 51 psi.

Yeah tire price went up for the last couple of years. There's Radar Dimax AS-8 225/55R19 103V tire found by Badgerbass which costs only half of other name-brand tires, but has very good reviews by Badgerbass and many others on the Internet.
 
My COSTCO tire guy tells me that their Michelin Defender LTX is a good alternative to their Premier LTX as it has greater tread depth and therefore a longer mileage warranty(115,000km vs 100,000 km), BUT, for the CX-5 the only size available is 235/55/19 which will work just fine. While I had the Premier LTX's on my previous CX-5(and really liked how they performed) I may consider the Defender LTX's next time around in 2 or 3 years when my oem Toyo's are toast.
Michelin Defender LTX doesn't offer 225/55R19 size. 235/55/19 would make your speedometer and odometer off as the tire is larger on total diameter. Not recommended.

If you really want expensive Michelin, just go for Michelin Premier LTX with right size.
 
Some say Pirelli would void the manufacture warranty as our OE Toyo is a V-rated tire.

"Some" just happens to include the stickers attached to every new Pirelli tire AND it's explicitly stated in the written Pirelli warranty. Perhaps I am missing something, but that seems extremely clear to me!
 
There's a more recent table in post #76 of this thread. At the time Yokohama Geolandar G055 was rated #14 out of 28 crossover/SUV touring all-season tires from TireRack, which is not good. 65,000-mile warranty is the same as General AltiMAX RT43.

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus is a H-rated tire. Some say Pirelli would void the manufacture warranty as our OE Toyo is a V-rated tire. And its maximum inflation pressure is only 44 psi, not 51 psi.

Yeah tire price went up for the last couple of years. There's Radar Dimax AS-8 225/55R19 103V tire found by Badgerbass which costs only half of other name-brand tires, but has very good reviews by Badgerbass and many others on the Internet.

Thanks yrwei52 for the link to the Radar Dimax AS-8 225/55R19 103V. I missed that post or blew though it. But as of today Walmart is out of stock on the 225/55R19 size.
I not sure I want to take a change on them as I would like to have a somewhat quiet smooth ride and the Altimax is rated good in that category.

I'm guessing I'll be ordering the General AltiMAX RT43 from Walmart before April 30th to get the rebate because I"ll need new tire for a trip in June.
If it wasn't for the trip I would see if I could get to the 50,000 mile mark as I already at 48,500 as of today, I don't drive much and wait for the Memorial Day tire sale as I think it will be better sale.

But I guess 48,500 isn't bad compared to some. Next project, the transmission fluid.
Thanks again yrwei52 and Badgerbass too, I'll keep them tires in mind for another day.

AcGolfer
 
"Some" just happens to include the stickers attached to every new Pirelli tire AND it's explicitly stated in the written Pirelli warranty. Perhaps I am missing something, but that seems extremely clear to me!

You are absolutely right ...it is very clear, as per the Pirelli label which reads:

"REPLACEMENT TIRES MUST ALWAYS HAVE A LOAD INDEX AND SPEED RATING EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THOSE FITTED AS ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT"
 
Michelin Defender LTX doesn't offer 225/55R19 size. 235/55/19 would make your speedometer and odometer off as the tire is larger on total diameter. Not recommended.

If you really want expensive Michelin, just go for Michelin Premier LTX with right size.

I agree, that the speedometer will be different...but negligible. I use 17" winter tires and don't worry about the minor speedo difference. Now, I would expect to see Michelin add a 225/55/19 size to their Defender LTX lineup by next year. The same thing happened with the Premier LTX, there was no 225/55/19 initially, but they eventually came out with that size, due to demand.

This chart shows how negligible the speed difference is:

Speedometer Difference

Speedo Reading ......... Actual Speed
20 mph (32.19 km/h)... 20.3 mph (32.67 km/h)
25 mph (40.23 km/h)... 25.38 mph (40.84 km/h)
30 mph (48.28 km/h) ... 30.45 mph (49.01 km/h)
35 mph (56.33 km/h) ... 35.53 mph (57.18 km/h)
40 mph (64.37 km/h) ... 40.6 mph (65.34 km/h)
45 mph (72.42 km/h) ... 45.68 mph (73.51 km/h)
50 mph (80.47 km/h)... 50.75 mph (81.68 km/h)
55 mph (88.51 km/h) ... 55.83 mph (89.85 km/h)
60 mph (96.56 km/h) ... 60.9 mph (98.02 km/h)
65 mph (104.61 km/h)... 65.98 mph (106.18 km/h)

Yes there is a small price premium for Michelin's, but I always buy them on sale and believe they have one of the best warranties in the business. You get what you pay for. As I always buy my tires at COSTCO, for their before and after sales service, and pricing, I would be happier to select a Michelin, Pirelli, or Bridgestone(my winters) from them. The Premier LTX, in the recent past, in 225/55/19, has proven itself for me but in 2-3 years when I'll need replacement for my new oem Toyo's I'm sure there will be some other interesting options to choose from.
 
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I agree, that the speedometer will be different...but negligible. I use 17" winter tires and don't worry about the minor speedo difference. Now, I would expect to see Michelin add a 225/55/19 size to their Defender LTX lineup by next year. The same thing happened with the Premier LTX, there was no 225/55/19 initially, but they eventually came out with that size, due to demand.

This chart shows how negligible the speed difference is:

Speedometer Difference

Speedo Reading ......... Actual Speed
20 mph (32.19 km/h)... 20.3 mph (32.67 km/h)
25 mph (40.23 km/h)... 25.38 mph (40.84 km/h)
30 mph (48.28 km/h) ... 30.45 mph (49.01 km/h)
35 mph (56.33 km/h) ... 35.53 mph (57.18 km/h)
40 mph (64.37 km/h) ... 40.6 mph (65.34 km/h)
45 mph (72.42 km/h) ... 45.68 mph (73.51 km/h)
50 mph (80.47 km/h)... 50.75 mph (81.68 km/h)
55 mph (88.51 km/h) ... 55.83 mph (89.85 km/h)
60 mph (96.56 km/h) ... 60.9 mph (98.02 km/h)
65 mph (104.61 km/h)... 65.98 mph (106.18 km/h)

Yes there is a small price premium for Michelin's, but I always buy them on sale and believe they have one of the best warranties in the business. You get what you pay for. As I always buy my tire s at COSTCO, for their before and after sales service, and pricing, I would be happier to select a Michelin, Pirelli, or Bridgestone(my winters) from them. The Premier LTX, in the recent past, in 225/55/19, has proven itself for me but in 2-3 years when I'll need replacement for my new oem Toyo's I'm sure there will be some other interesting options to choose from.
Not only the speedometer, but also the odometer will be affected by different size of tires. Many speed sensors rely on accurate speed reading hence the tire size is essential, however it's as negligible as 1.5% difference.

I used to like Micheline tires although it's more expensive. But a set of Michelin MXT tires on my old VW Vanagon exploded twice on the highway years ago, which is also my only tire explosion experience so far in my life. Another set of Michelin Primacy MXV4 on my VW Passat developed dry rot on the sidewall on all 4 tires and Michelin refused to do anything under warranty. I no longer insist getting Michelin tires unless it's reasonably priced.

The Defender LTX M/S is Michelin's Highway All-Season light truck tire and the Premier LTX is Michelin's Crossover/SUV Touring All-Season light truck tire. Getting Defender LTX M/S 235/55R19 105H XL is not only the wrong size, but also has 7.5 "Measuring (Designed) Rim Width" which doesn't fit CX-5's OE 19" wheels with 7" rim width. It's an extra load tire with heavier weight, and it should feel more like truck tire with stronger sidewall.


Selected 19" Tire Comparasion:


Tire


Size


UTQG


Maximum
Load
Maximum
Inflation
Pressure


Tread
Depth


Tire
Weight


Rim Width
Range


Measuring
Rim Width


Section
Width


Tread
Width


Overall
Diameter


Revolutions
Per Mile
Country
of
Origin


Warranty


Price*
Michelin Defender LTX M/S235/55R19
105H XL
720 A A2,039 lbs50 psi10.5/32"31 lbs6.5~8.5"7.5"9.7"7.6"29.1"713US70,000 Miles
6 Years
$206.99
Michelin Premier LTX225/55R19
99V SL
620 A A1,709 lbs44 psi8.5/32"27 lbs6~8"7"9.2"7.8"28.9"723US60,000 Miles
6 Years
$219.99
Toyo A23225/55R19
99V SL
300 A A1,709 lbs51 psi9.8/32"28 lbs.?7"9"8"28.9"720JPOE Gen-1 CX-5
- None
$139.90
Toyo A36225/55R19
99V SL
300 A A1,709 lbs51 psi10.2/32"29 lbs6~8"7"9"7.3"28.8"722JPOE Gen-2 CX-5
- None
$139.90


* Based on the price available at TireRack.com on 4/21/2019.
 
The Defender LTX M/S is Michelin's Highway All-Season light truck tire and the Premier LTX is Michelin's Crossover/SUV Touring All-Season light truck tire. Getting Defender LTX M/S 235/55R19 105H XL is not only the wrong size, but also has 7.5* "Measuring (Designed) Rim Width" which doesn't fit CX-5's OE 19" wheels with 7" rim width. It's an extra load tire with heavier weight, and it should feel more like truck tire with stronger sidewall.

Good point about the 7.5" rim. My COSTCO rep didn't mention this to me. I must quiz him on this next week. But I'm sure the Defender LTX will have a 225/55/19 before the end of 2019.
 
Not only the speedometer, but also the odometer will be affected by different size of tires. Many speed sensors rely on accurate speed reading hence the tire size is essential, however it's as negligible as 1.5% difference.

I used to like Micheline tires although it's more expensive. But a set of Michelin MXT tires on my old VW Vanagon exploded twice on the highway years ago, which is also my only tire explosion experience so far in my life. Another set of Michelin Primacy MXV4 on my VW Passat developed dry rot on the sidewall on all 4 tires and Michelin refused to do anything under warranty. I no longer insist getting Michelin tires unless it's reasonably priced.

The Defender LTX M/S is Michelin's Highway All-Season light truck tire and the Premier LTX is Michelin's Crossover/SUV Touring All-Season light truck tire. Getting Defender LTX M/S 235/55R19 105H XL is not only the wrong size, but also has 7.5 "Measuring (Designed) Rim Width" which doesn't fit CX-5's OE 19" wheels with 7" rim width. It's an extra load tire with heavier weight, and it should feel more like truck tire with stronger sidewall.


Selected 19" Tire Comparasion:


Tire


Size


UTQG


Maximum
Load
Maximum
Inflation
Pressure


Tread
Depth


Tire
Weight


Rim Width
Range


Measuring
Rim Width


Section
Width


Tread
Width


Overall
Diameter


Revolutions
Per Mile
Country
of
Origin


Warranty


Price*
Michelin Defender LTX M/S235/55R19
105H XL
720 A A2,039 lbs50 psi10.5/32"31 lbs6.5~8.5"7.5"9.7"7.6"29.1"713US70,000 Miles
6 Years
$206.99
Michelin Premier LTX[emoji2400]225/55R19
99V SL
620 A A1,709 lbs44 psi8.5/32"27 lbs6~8"7"9.2"7.8"28.9"723US60,000 Miles
6 Years
$219.99
Toyo A23225/55R19
99V SL
300 A A1,709 lbs51 psi9.8/32"28 lbs.?7"9"8"28.9"720JPOE Gen-1 CX-5
- None
$139.90
Toyo A36225/55R19
99V SL
300 A A1,709 lbs51 psi10.2/32"29 lbs6~8"7"9"7.3"28.8"722JPOE Gen-2 CX-5
- None
$139.90


* Based on the price available at TireRack.com on 4/21/2019.
Your Rim Width Ranges from 6" to 8" respectively, but recommended are 7.5". They do indicate though that any tire can fit on there as long as the tire manufacturer has indicated within those specs. Tire rack clearly states that extensive testing has been done for those ranges to work.

Just my 2c
 
Hi fbwazoomzoom , I guess I really got lucky with my Toyo A24 255/55/r19 tires, as I have 45,000 mile with thread depths at 3/32 and one at 4/32. And I only kept the air pressure at 35 psi. Now it's time for some new ones and the reason I ended up in this thread.

The General AltiMAx RT43 which everyone seems to like is $156 at Walmart plus $50 rebate from manufacture = $144.50. Which is a lot higher then what has been posted last year when this thread started.

My dealer pushing the Yokohama Geolandar G055. I can get the them from Walmart for $156. But that tire seems to be on the bottom of the list so I not sure I would want them. Haven't seen must talk about them. And I think they may also have a $50 rebate so same price. Any thought on these tires?

Then there is the Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S Plus which seems to also be popular which are at Sams for $188 - $20/tire rebate = $168. So they are only a little less than a $100 more for the Pirelli Cinturato P7 A/S Plus and some folks seems to like them better than the General RT43.

It appears as if the price of tire went up since the start of this thread in 2018, some people got some pretty good deals last year at Discount Tires, none around my area and even their prices seems to be up. My tire lasted longer but prices went up, did I save or not? Haha

Any thought on the Geolandars? Or should I just eliminate them from consideration and try to decide if the P7s are worth $100 more than than RT43s?

Thanks

BF Goodrich !
 
Your Rim Width Ranges from 6" to 8" respectively, but recommended are 7.5". They do indicate though that any tire can fit on there as long as the tire manufacturer has indicated within those specs. Tire rack clearly states that extensive testing has been done for those ranges to work.

Just my 2c
No, the recommended or designed rim width for 225/55R19 tire is 7 which is the rim width of OE 19 wheels.

TireRack.com said:
TIRE TECH: TIRE SPECS EXPLAINED:

Measuring Rim Width

The measuring rim width is the industry standardized rim width upon which the tire must be mounted in order to confirm it meets its dimensional targets. Because the width of the rim will influence the width of the tire, a standard rim width for every tire size is assigned and must be used. This standardized measuring rim width allows all of the tires produced around the world to meet the same dimensional standards and therefore, be equivalent with regards to their physical size. The measuring rim width is sometimes referred to as the tire's "design rim width."

The assigned measuring rim width changes with the tire size's section width and with the tire size's aspect ratio. As tire section width increases, the measuring rim width increases proportionately in 1/2" increments. Therefore, relatively narrow wheel widths are assigned for smaller tires while wider wheel widths are assigned for larger tires.

Additionally, relatively "narrow" measuring wheel widths are assigned for taller profile tires (75-series sizes) which graduate in 1/2" increments to the wider wheel widths assigned for lower profile tires (40-series sizes).
 
No, the recommended or designed rim width for 225/55R19 tire is 7 which is the rim width of OE 19 wheels.
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TIRE TECH:*TIRE SPECS EXPLAINED: RIM WIDTH RANGE FOR STREET / HIGHWAY TIRES

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Rim Width Range

Because tires have flexible sidewalls, a single tire size will fit on a variety of rim widths. A tire's rim width range identifies the narrowest to the widest rim widths upon which the tire is designed to be mounted during its tens-of-thousands of miles and years of service.

The width of the rim will influence the width of the tire. A tire mounted on a narrow rim would be "narrower" than if the same size tire was mounted on a wide rim.

Note:*Because the overall diameter of a steel-belted radial is essentially determined by the steel belts, there is little, if any, change to the overall diameter of the tire due to differences in rim width.

The industry rule of thumb is that for every 1/2" change in rim width, the tire's section width will correspondingly change by approximately 2/10".

"A tire's rim width range identifies the narrowest to the widest rim widths upon which the tire is designed to be mounted during its tens-of-thousands of miles and years of service."

For example, a tire in the P205/60R15 size is measured on a 6.0" wide wheel and this size tire has an approved rim width range from 5.5" to 7.5" wide. The tire has a section width of 8.23" (209mm) when mounted on a 6.0" wide wheel. If that tire were mounted on all of the rims within its range, the tire's approximate section width would change as follows:

Difference from Measuring RimRim
Width
Approximate Tire Section Width
0.5" narrower5.5"8.03"
Measuring Rim 6.0"8.23"0.5"
wider6.5"8.43"1.0"
wider7.0"8.63"1.5"
wider7.5"8.83"

Because of the different wheel widths used in the above example, there is a 8/10" projected difference in tire section width when comparing a tire mounted on the narrowest rim to the widest rim within its range. This may affect fenderwell and frame clearances when selecting optional aftermarket wheel and tire packages.

Additionally, some vehicle manufacturers have developed Original Equipment applications in which the rim widths are not within the tire's original approved rim width range. For example:

1995 BMW M3 combined 235/40R17 sized tires on 17x7.5" rims (which are 0.5" less than the narrowest 8.0" wide rim listed for the size).

Corvette C3 models combined P225/70R15 sized tires on 15x8" rims (which are 0.5" wider than the 7.5" wide rim now listed for the size).

Corvette C4 models combined P255/50R16 sized tires on optional 16x9.5" rims (which are 0.5" wider than the 9.0" wide rim now listed for the size).

The rear tire application for Porsche 911 GT3 cars during 2010 - 2012 model years combined 305/30R19 sized rear tires on 19x12" rims (which are 0.5" wider than the 11.5" wide rim listed for the size).

While outside the normal recommended rim width ranges, these applications meet the specifications of the vehicle manufacturer.
 
Your Rim Width Ranges from 6" to 8" respectively, but recommended are 7.5". They do indicate though that any tire can fit on there as long as the tire manufacturer has indicated within those specs. Tire rack clearly states that extensive testing has been done for those ranges to work.

Just my 2c

I checked with my COSTCO tire guy and he confirms, as you say, and as the TireRack chart shows that the Michelin Defender 235/55/19 will fit on a 7" rim( 6.5" - 8.5" rims will fit). NOW, there will be some slightly different handling characteristics as the tire is slightly wider and taller BUT even every different brand of oem fitting 225/55/19 will handle differently. Regardless, I'm still of the opinion that the Defender LTX will come in 225/55/19 before the end of the year.
 
"Some" just happens to include the stickers attached to every new Pirelli tire AND it's explicitly stated in the written Pirelli warranty. Perhaps I am missing something, but that seems extremely clear to me!

I just checked with my COSTCO tire guy regarding the warranty on their H rated (Pirelli) tires for the CX-5. He says that it will not be an issue if you buy your Pirelli tires at COSTCO as their warranty is NOT through Pirelli but their own in house warranty. SO, if you take your COSTCO purchased H rated tires over 149mph(210 kmh) and they blown up don't worry, as COSTCO has you covered!! On the other hand what is Mazda's take on using H rated tires on a V rated CX-5? It is unlikely I would ever get my CX-5 up to 149 mph, downhill with a tailwind, so I would certainly feel safe at the speeds I travel, on H rated tires....BUT, I just feel V rated is the best way to go based on Mazda's recommendation.
 
I just checked with my COSTCO tire guy regarding the warranty on their H rated (Pirelli) tires for the CX-5. He says that it will not be an issue if you buy your Pirelli tires at COSTCO as their warranty is NOT through Pirelli but their own in house warranty. SO, if you take your COSTCO purchased H rated tires over 149mph(210 kmh) and they blown up don't worry, as COSTCO has you covered!! On the other hand what is Mazda's take on using H rated tires on a V rated CX-5? It is unlikely I would ever get my CX-5 up to 149 mph, downhill with a tailwind, so I would certainly feel safe at the speeds I travel, on H rated tires....BUT, I just feel V rated is the best way to go based on Mazda's recommendation.
Firstly, the top speed on CX-5 is set to be 120 mph, can't drive faster than that.

Secondly, Mazda uses H-rated tires on 17" wheels for CX-5. The speed rating on H-rated tire is 130 mph. It's perfectly safe to use H-rated tires on CX-5, 17" or 19".
 
Firstly, the top speed on CX-5 is set to be 120 mph, can't drive faster than that.

Secondly, Mazda uses H-rated tires on 17" wheels for CX-5. The speed rating on H-rated tire is 130 mph. It's perfectly safe to use H-rated tires on CX-5, 17" or 19".

Not to quibble, but I thought 130?
 
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