2020 CX-5 GTR
Hi there. I just got first oil change for my 2020 CX-5 GTR at the dealer today. I noticed that they use 0W20 instead of 5W30 (according to the owner manual).
Would it be ok for that?
Would it be ok for that?
I’ve advocated that since entering the thread. The item you quoted was a very simple way to dispel unnecessary hysteria.
Nope. I advocated resolving the issue. I furthermore explained the largest risk from using 0W20 vs 5W30, and expressly said to try to work it out with the dealer. If that doesn’t work I said to move on and not use them. I even told Eric how to mitigate the increased risk from a 0W20 (if that’s what’s in his engine, which no one has yet demonstrated). I even took the extra step to show how to beat back the fear-mongering claims that this will void his warranty. If the dealer claims their own mistake caused an engine problem, that in itself is their claim that they are liable for it.
You incorrectly assumed or inferred everything else, and asked no questions.
Others here have brought unnecessary hysteria. This is an easy one to deal with, and there are multiple ways to deal with it. Among them: Work it out with the dealer (my first suggestion). Choose a different provider (another suggestion I made). Drive conservatively until the viscosity is verified or the fluid is changed (also my suggestion).
I see that you have now (finally) asked a question rather than making presumptive declarations. Cap the load on the main and rod bearings by not opening the throttle near wide open. This reduces max load on those bearings. In other words, drive conservatively.
Don't let the paranoia from some here get to you, Eric. Speaking in broad generalities, 0W20 offers reduced main and rod bearing protection compared to 5W30. HOWEVER, you can completely mitigate that by driving conservatively. Do that and there'll be zero harm of any sort.
As to the replacement of oil and filter (if you determine that's necessary), work it out with the dealer if you can. If you can't, move on and maybe choose a different service provider next time. If in the end you're dissatisfied with that provider, just remember that this is not an expensive experience.
Bickering is not going to help the OP with his dilemma.
Given your little spat, it's telling that he hasn't been back here for a few days, don't you think?
Anyway, getting back on track, what I'd like to know is (with verifiable data and not just guesses) is: what are the actual risks involved with running the lighter oil and the filter from a non turbo engine in the turbo version?
I highly doubt the actual innards of the two engines are any different, so talk of damaging rod and crank bearings seems a little extreme. I'd like some hard data from either one of you to verify that.
Secondly, doesn't the wrong oil and filter issue have more to do with possible long term damage to the turbo itself, as opposed to the engines' innards? Again, maybe one of you can clarify that for us, with facts to back it up.
In the meantime, we can only hope the OP has had a chance to verify what oil filter the dealer actually installed, and that he can get things rectified with said dealer.
lol, you guys crack me up. You don't trust the dealer because what the service advisor says doesn't match the invoice but yet if everything matched, you would trust it 100%??? How does that work? Do you do an oil analysis after every change just to ensure the oil put in matches what's on the invoice?
It's already been pointed out that, under normal conditions, the difference in oil (and probably filter as well) isn't going to make a difference so I won't rehash that. The question becomes: do you want the 'right' oil or do you want the dealer to fix their mistake? Those two points are not equal.
I had my GTR 1st oil change last week and was kind of dreading this because I know how bad dealership services departments can be on many different levels. So knowing that they see a lot more non-turbo GT CX5 than turbo ones, and GTR really has nothing on the exterior on inside that jumps out and says 'I'm a Turbo', I arguably had good reason to think something could go wrong with even a simple oil change.Hi there. I just got first oil change for my 2020 CX-5 GTR at the dealer today. I noticed that they use 0W20 instead of 5W30 (according to the owner manual).
Would it be ok for that?
How were you able to tell that they used 0w20 ? I had my GTR 1st oil change last week and was concerned that this might happen at my dealer ? The repair order that they gave me shows they used 5W30 but I really don't know what the tech sees when he is doing the job. The oil cap clearly says 5W30 in bright yellow lettering.
So just wondering if your repair order was what clued you in to the error if not, then how did you figure it out?
My only reason for concern in my case is that my gas mileage somehow seems slightly improved since the oil change which coincides only with the oil being changed. So did i get lighter 0W20 which may have improved gas mileage. I'm admittedly overly paranoid though.
Thank you - I actually just got through editing my hasty post after I took the time to read the whole thread. I will let you know what I find on the invoice and visual inspection with regards to the oil filter that was installed. I think I will be doing my own oil changes with full synthetic Mobil 1 oil and Mazda OEM filters like I've been doing on my prius for the past 12 years. May need a more beefy set of ramps since the CX5 weighs considerably more. It is worth the peace of mind knowing that it was done right with regards to parts used and fill levels being correct.