blue_hotty
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Okay guys, I've got roughly $1,000 to spend on performance upgrades. What's a good combo to get 155-160hp from this engine? Prefer to go the normallly aspired route. Suggestions?
$1,000 power project?
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I agree with Apexi......and BTW....there is a good post in the performance section from a guy at a shop that just did the install...has a link to the shops website with pics and all....they are dynoing REAL soon and will repost the results.
the turbo looks awsome....from the install they did you would nearly sware its a factory job...its that clean.
the turbo looks awsome....from the install they did you would nearly sware its a factory job...its that clean.
DooMer_MP3
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You could try intake, intake & exhaust cams, cam gears and a Greddy eManage to properly tune. It would probably be closer to about $1200 though. A header and exhaust would be a good addition afterwards.
Chris
Chris
If you do decide to go the custom cams route, do realize that your car will probably idle a lot different. Bumpy cams usually translates to a rough, uncivil idle. You'll also need an ignition system aswell as can gears to tune properly. I wish the best for you.
blue_hotty
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custom cams
Okay, that sounds good to me. $600 for good cams, a low flow muffler, and CAI... probably run slightly over $1G, but not too bad. Any estimates on power... Hopefully it'll be 120+ whp. And that idle/rough ride thing sounds a little sketchy, if that's true I probably won't do it.
Anyone recommend a good cam shop? And where the heck to you get a car dynoed at anyway?
Okay, that sounds good to me. $600 for good cams, a low flow muffler, and CAI... probably run slightly over $1G, but not too bad. Any estimates on power... Hopefully it'll be 120+ whp. And that idle/rough ride thing sounds a little sketchy, if that's true I probably won't do it.
Anyone recommend a good cam shop? And where the heck to you get a car dynoed at anyway?
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Hey Hotty,
IF 120 whp is what you're shooting for, you won't need custom cams... I acheived exactly that with my mods:
Injen CAI
Bosal Federal Exhaust (removes 2nd Cat)
J-spec Intake and Exhaust cams
In parts alone, that's about a grand. I had the install on the cams done by my dealership, ran about $200. Everything else was bolt on, and could easily be done with a decent set of tools and some time.
Just my .02 for ya'.
Hey Hotty,
IF 120 whp is what you're shooting for, you won't need custom cams... I acheived exactly that with my mods:
Injen CAI
Bosal Federal Exhaust (removes 2nd Cat)
J-spec Intake and Exhaust cams
In parts alone, that's about a grand. I had the install on the cams done by my dealership, ran about $200. Everything else was bolt on, and could easily be done with a decent set of tools and some time.
Just my .02 for ya'.
It depends on what you really want
if your looking for alot of power for really cheap, your best bet would be in a bottle
if you went that route you would probably have enough for and Injen intake
but NOS is only temporary power, if you want more full time, I would say go get some headers and a catback and get a few more pennies for an Injen
but for $1000, your going to get the most power from NOS and an intake
just dont get a cheap NOS kit, otherwise you will be spending alot more money on your car than what you would ever want
if your looking for alot of power for really cheap, your best bet would be in a bottle
if you went that route you would probably have enough for and Injen intake
but NOS is only temporary power, if you want more full time, I would say go get some headers and a catback and get a few more pennies for an Injen
but for $1000, your going to get the most power from NOS and an intake
just dont get a cheap NOS kit, otherwise you will be spending alot more money on your car than what you would ever want
jmauld said:
Uhh, ok. I'm not sure where you heard that from, but it has been known for quite sometime now that if you plan on running aftermarket cams, they perform best when tuned with cam gears. You can further compliment your cams by upping the spark via ignition system. So, you're telling us that you can buy TODA C Spec cams for a BP Miata, not have to tune them and still gain optimal numbers.
That's kinda like buying a turbo kit and not installing an intercooler. Sure the intercooler isn't always needed, but it sure does help.So, I say buy some cams, buy some cam gears from TriPoint, get the OBX header, do a cudtom exhaust and distributorless ignition system. All this will probably cost you over $1000 though, oh well
APEXistud said:
Uhh, ok. I'm not sure where you heard that from, but it has been known for quite sometime now that if you plan on running aftermarket cams, they perform best when tuned with cam gears. You can further compliment your cams by upping the spark via ignition system. So, you're telling us that you can buy TODA C Spec cams for a BP Miata, not have to tune them and still gain optimal numbers.
So, I say buy some cams, buy some cam gears from TriPoint, get the OBX header, do a cudtom exhaust and distributorless ignition system. All this will probably cost you over $1000 though, oh well
Uhhh Ok? What's the attitude about? I didn't see any reason for that...
Did I say that you would get "optimum" power out of the cams? No, I simply said you did not NEED the camgears. And anyway IF you are getting more then 2-3 extra hp out of camgears then you need to have the cam shop redesign the cams because they are NOT aggressive enough to begin with.
Properly designed cams can still retain a stock like idle without being lumpy and give a lot more power throughout the rpm band. The keyword there is PROPERLY designed cams. With the ignition system, yes it'll help, but it's not needed. Has anyone found the limit of the current ignition system? On my other car, I've doubled the stock hp and still running the original ignition parts.
Comparing camgears and an intercooler isn't a valid comparison. Intercoolers add efficiency to the turbo system. Camgears cover-up poorly designed cams. Unless you're in to racing on tracks where you need to adjust the powerband on a regular basis.
Anyway, the parts that you suggest would put the total over 1 grand. I believer blue-hottie's idea of cams, intake, and exhaust is a good idea for reaching that power level without going over $1k.
Here are some Cam shops if you're willing to take the time to get the cams done.
Crane Cams
Crower
Webcams
Gude / Bullfrog???
There are others, but I can't remember the names right now.
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