Official 2009 USDM Mazda6 thread

you know what's funny?

they included the hood hump.... in the photoshopping, like the tmic is there... if they DO make a new one for us in the states.... I hope it's a FMIC.

oh and that i doubt is an appearance package only, since the article is stating about power and AWD etc.

But I can definitely tell those front fender flare/valanches are that of the M'z Tune ms6 overseas. and I really wish we could buy them here in the states :(

Yeah, but if you go back and look at the press shots of the 6, it already has the hood bumps like the PS has too. That's gonna be standard...wonder how (and if) they go with a new MS6 what it would be like style wise...
 
Yeah, but if you go back and look at the press shots of the 6, it already has the hood bumps like the PS has too. That's gonna be standard...wonder how (and if) they go with a new MS6 what it would be like style wise...

Maybe cause it looks more sexy on the ms6 than a regular hood with those bumps they went with it? LOL

Actually I think it might be to at least accomodate the 3.7L v6, if anything.

I'm just really hoping, if they go the MPS Mazda6 route, they do it twin turbo v6.

Listen to the masses mazda!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (piss)
 
Maybe cause it looks more sexy on the ms6 than a regular hood with those bumps they went with it? LOL

Actually I think it might be to at least accomodate the 3.7L v6, if anything.

I'm just really hoping, if they go the MPS Mazda6 route, they do it twin turbo v6.

Listen to the masses mazda!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (piss)

I would totally love a TT V6 too, and there is definitely the potential for it with the new EcoBoost engines that Ford is developing. They might use that as a basis and build a performance variant that is even better and put in the new MS6. It would be awesome down the road to pick up a new MS6 to compliment the current one. My only request is that they make it Lapis Blue or something close.
 
I would totally love a TT V6 too, and there is definitely the potential for it with the new EcoBoost engines that Ford is developing. They might use that as a basis and build a performance variant that is even better and put in the new MS6. It would be awesome down the road to pick up a new MS6 to compliment the current one. My only request is that they make it Lapis Blue or something close.

Yeah, blue like the first MS6 prototype that Mazda made.... and not to mention 2010.... that's 2 years from now, plenty can happen in that time, including the change to twin turbo v6.... I will go to sleep every night praying, lol

I could dig a TT v6 as a daily, and keep the current ms6 as a toy/track/mod car (thumb)
 
Yeah, blue like the first MS6 prototype that Mazda made.... and not to mention 2010.... that's 2 years from now, plenty can happen in that time, including the change to twin turbo v6.... I will go to sleep every night praying, lol

I could dig a TT v6 as a daily, and keep the current ms6 as a toy/track/mod car (thumb)

Well, the Lincoln MKS will have a TT 3.5 V6 next year with over 300hp, and IMO that would be a great starting point for a new Mk2 MS6. I believe (not 100% sure) but the ecoboost engines are capable of running on regular unleaded, even with the FI. If they tuned it for 91+, went with the aluminum block (if it's not already) and lowered the compression, or went with the DI setup like ours have, that car could be a monster.
 
Well, the Lincoln MKS will have a TT 3.5 V6 next year with over 300hp, and IMO that would be a great starting point for a new Mk2 MS6. I believe (not 100% sure) but the ecoboost engines are capable of running on regular unleaded, even with the FI. If they tuned it for 91+, went with the aluminum block (if it's not already) and lowered the compression, or went with the DI setup like ours have, that car could be a monster.
Indeed dude.... but I would still be buying 93 octane if the car was FI'd, better performance over 89 octane (that's regular around here) and it runs/burns cleaner off the engine as well.I would love to just see around 330hp.... just because it might weigh a lot again, like it's predecessor, and I would LOVE for it to move quick enough to actually be comparable to EVOs and STIs.... it would be the next best thing to hit the market. A luxury cruiser kicking the s*** out of the "tuner" cars (2thumbs).

i'd rather see and high flowing, high reving V6 then a TT V6 or boosted 4

2 things:

1. What do you mean by "high revving" ? What's a high revving v6 to you, just curious because a lot of the v6 engines I've seen don't have what you might consider a "high" redline if you compare it to cars like the rx-8, s2000, japanese civic Si and integra type-r engines, etc. I mean, my girlfriend's Mazda6 v6 has about the same redline as my MS6 if not slightly lower. and Other v6 cars I've seen like the IS250/350, v6 mustang, my old v6 rodeo, the redlines weren't much higher than 7k (the current MS6 has a redline about 6,750 rpm)

2. high flowing I'm assuming you mean a high flowing fuel pump/pressure rail? I think a lot of people would complain about that because of how much gas the car would be sucking up, given it would be a v6. The current MS6's fuel pump is actually good for, being as a daily driven non-modded car. I don't think car developers think about that type of stuff for modding. That's why there are always aftermarket companies.

and the worst/sucky part would be the power output.... would Mazda/Ford have the ability to make the v6 powerful enough for an AWD heavy MS6? I only say that because if you compare a Lexus IS350 to a Mustang GT. the GT has 2 more cylinders and is making the same power as the 350 (300). That's kinda sucky :(

But if you take that high-flowing high revving v6 you want, and put a twin turbo setup with 2 small snails (preferrably a sequential setup, instead of a parallel) that, itself, would be a beast.
 
we must remember the very first prototype of a Mazda MPS ..it was 1999 i think...

v6 /turbo 4wd (thumb)
 

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven't seen that in so long I forgot about it.... yeah WTF ever happened to that? That definitely would have competed well with the Subis and the AWD Eclipse/Talons of that time..... and probably now because it would have a TON of support by now.

I still want them to do TWIN turbo, sequential, v6.... and if they don't do twin, at least a single turbo V6 would be nice, like a nice biggest turbo.... say a gt30 (like the 3076 for our cars now), or bravely, a gt35?? (2thumbs)
 
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven't seen that in so long I forgot about it.... yeah WTF ever happened to that? That definitely would have competed well with the Subis and the AWD Eclipse/Talons of that time..... and probably now because it would have a TON of support by now.

I still want them to do TWIN turbo, sequential, v6.... and if they don't do twin, at least a single turbo V6 would be nice, like a nice biggest turbo.... say a gt30 (like the 3076 for our cars now), or bravely, a gt35?? (2thumbs)

I'd say with a TT V6 should come in around 375+ hp, with little or no effort. That would be an acceptable starting point IMO. Definitely more than capable of keeping up with the evo/sti crowd, and distancing itself from the MS3 as well. The problem now is that they were too close to each other in power in 2007, which killed the MS6 as a result. I think it should have at least 50-60hp more, AWD, and a larger engine.
 
I'd say with a TT V6 should come in around 375+ hp, with little or no effort. That would be an acceptable starting point IMO. Definitely more than capable of keeping up with the evo/sti crowd, and distancing itself from the MS3 as well. The problem now is that they were too close to each other in power in 2007, which killed the MS6 as a result. I think it should have at least 50-60hp more, AWD, and a larger engine.


Exactly... what's the point of producing 2 cars to have the same power, ones just FWD and one is AWD?

I would definitely love a TT v6 Ms6 putting down AT LEAST 350 hp. that would definitely make it a potent match to the rest of the AWD crowd, like the EVOs and STI, might even make it comparable to the S4.... and with any hope and some luck, the RS4? ;)

I think if Mazda pulled that off people would go the MS6 over the RS4 because of the significantly huge price difference.

But yes, since the ms6 was like 33-35k average, and the ms3 is like 25k average

I definitely agree, if Mazda were to do it PROPER.... they should do the MS6 with the 3.7L v6 twin turbo'd, and the MS3 can have the 2.5L inline-4 with a single turbo. That would definitely work.

Making the MS3 compare to the regular turbo wrx, the civic si, the vw gti, and the other cars in it's field, etc.
and making the MS6 compare to the other AWD cars, like the EVOx, STI, audi S4, etc.
 
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in a perfect world this would be the perfect pair: MS3 with 2.5 turbo disi and 4wd system (versus Impreza and Lancer) and a MS6 w/ V6 TT (like the original idea showed in 1999) to match with hi-spec germans A4 o 3series

but today there are a lot of trouble with gas prices and CO2 issues....
and Mazda it's interested to make good selling car....;)

We must only wait and cross the fingers....

here in Europe is strongly rumored a 180-200 Hp diesel version of the 6...there is quite market for this kind of cars here.....
Today it's on sale only a 140hp diesel 2.0 liters.
 
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in a perfect world this would be the perfect pair: MS3 with 2.5 turbo disi and 4wd system (versus Impreza and Lancer) and a MS6 w/ V6 TT (like the original idea showed in 1999) to match with hi-spec germans A4 o 3series

but today there are a lot of trouble with gas prices and CO2 issues....
and Mazda it's interested to make good selling car....;)

We must only wait and cross the fingers....

here in Europe is strongly rumored a 180-200 Hp diesel version of the 6...there is quite market for this kind of cars here.....
Today it's on sale only a 140hp diesel 2.0 liters.

Do they have a lancer other than the "Evolution" in Europe that comes with AWD? the current MS3 already gives the Impreza WRX a run for it's money and that's FWD vs. AWD. The only Mitsu car in current production, that I know of, in the states is the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (more commonly known as the "Evo")
 
Do they have a lancer other than the "Evolution" in Europe that comes with AWD? the current MS3 already gives the Impreza WRX a run for it's money and that's FWD vs. AWD. The only Mitsu car in current production, that I know of, in the states is the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (more commonly known as the "Evo")

Yes.
but for me a Mazda called "mazdaspeed" or "Mazda Performance Series" must run against "STI" badge, or "EVO" badge or an Audi S3...

Without the AWD this is not possible....i'm talking about "track and winding road performance" not 0-100 or 0-400

IMHO AWD is mandatory for the next Mazda3 MPS (or MS3)
 
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I have to agree with MazdaMatt when it comes to gas prices. Because of the hike lately, I don't think it's in Mazda's best interest to come out with a TT V6 ms6, probably why the 1st gen was the 2.3L Turbo instead of following the prototype from 1999 and coming out with the current 3.0L Turbo? No doubt, though, if they produced the ms6 with the new V6 TT, i'd be on that. Even a 2.5L turbo would be great.
 
Yes.
but for me a Mazda called "mazdaspeed" or "Mazda Performance Series" must run against "STI" badge, or "EVO" badge or an Audi S3...

Without the AWD this is not possible....i'm talking about "track and winding road performance" not 0-100 or 0-400

IMHO AWD is mandatory for the next Mazda3 MPS (or MS3)

I understand what you're saying, but an S3? that sounds more like Mazdaspeed3/MPS Axela territory.... I would want a tt v6 MPS Atenza to be able to run against the STI and the Evo, but not the S3... I would want it to be able to run against the S4, and dare I say..... the RS4.... the S4 right now already gives the MS6 a run for it's money, since we can barely touch the EVOs and STIs stock for stock.

and I think if the MS3/MPS 3 came out in AWD, that would deter sales from the MPS 6, since the only reason any of us are even buying these cars is because of the performance, and how affordable it is. I mean these cars are definitely cheaper than an Evo or STI.
 
You guys understand that the 280 HP 2.5L MPS is for Europe only right?

We will get a 3.7L DISI Mazdaspeed here sometime down the road.
 
You guys understand that the 280 HP 2.5L MPS is for Europe only right?

We will get a 3.7L DISI Mazdaspeed here sometime down the road.

As of right now there are no official plans to build a new MS6, and that's right out of the factory. Not saying that it won't come in 2010 or 2011, but it's not being focused on at this point.
 
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